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Evening Jared,

I'm kinda struggling to se what you've done in the last couple of photos but the short answer is that there shouldn't be anything inside that little 'U' shaped bracket. It looks like you had it right in your earlier photos

There are two pieces nest together underneath - the bracket that attaches to the pushrod from the pedal and the arm with the 'thing' on the end that goes around the bearing in the middle of the clutch assembly. The slot in the forward side of the arm nests with the pin on the underside of the bracket.

It's one of those situations where if it works,it's right. Note also that there needs to be a lock nut on the pivot of this assembly. There is a nut welded to the frame that the pivot bolt goes into ( from underneath) but it needs a lock nut as well to stop the bolt migrating out with the constant movement that it is subjected to.

Sorry for the long explanation. I'll take photos for you in the morning. I was planning to post some more stuff in the morning as well.

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Hey the clutch assembly is al sorted. Just wondering if the small pulleys with the springs you sent are supposed to move back and forth? If you need a better pic to double check everything is ok let me know. I think everything seems ok but see what you think.


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Ok thank you for that I�ll try to take some better photos so you can see a bit better. Another question I have is I noticed that the belt I have is split. Do you know if this is a standard belt I can get from a bearing or mower place? And the pulley on top of the cutter deck with a left hand threaded bolt that is welded in place was damaged by the previous owner. I have managed to scotch key it with grub screws. I�m not quite sure how it will go until I get it running to test it. Is there anywhere that you know where I can get the bolt and pulley from if it doesn�t work? Thanks again for your help

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Morning Jared,

Those LH threads are always super tough to undo. If you're repair doesn't work, I know where to find a replacement.

Belts are standard from a bearing shop. Kevlar ones by preference. Let me get back to,you on size numbers- I'll have to dig them up. Or just take the old one to them.

The idler pullies should move laterally about an 1/8" , I think. There is a step on the shaft that limits it. Reality is that if the belt alignment is good then it's probably not a big problem.

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Ok no worries I�ll keep going with the rebuild for the moment and I�ll pick up a belt through the week. Here are some better photos. From what you�ve explained so far I�m pretty sure it�s all in the right direction so far

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From your last photos I've noticed the bracket is positioned slightly wrongly. It should be on top at the front and under at the back. Note also bolt from underneath. Front bolt needs to finish flush and the back one is super long to pick up the seat mounting at a later date. Bolt orientation and the short bolt at the front are so the cowling will sit down into place

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Might have a bit of a quick look at the axle mounting. You've shown a photo of a little plate with a slot in it. There should be two of these. They go on the adjustable side of the rear axle bearing mounts. They give extra friction/support to help prevent the axle bearing flanges slipping in the adjustment slot. The reason for the axle adjustment is so the chain can be tensioned. Note that the axle needs to be adjusted evenly to keep chain alignment.

This is a bit out of sequence really. You won't need to do this until the chain is on. I'm just mentioning it here because we are looking at the drive train and I just happened to notice them in your photos

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Cutter clutch:

I hoping the photos will speak for themselves. The arm in the centre is to pick up on the cutter brake at a later date.

Also, apologies for all the dust and hay on all the items I have photographed and the dust on the bits I sent you. Like most of the state we haven't seen rain for a bit and a lot of my stuff shares space with the daughters horses. Much of it is stored in one of the disused stables.

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Ok I�ve fixed up the bracket on the top for the clutch drive. I have 2 spacers for the bearings in the pulleys. Do they fit in the cutter clutch pulleys that are shown in your picture?

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By the way it�s all good about the dust and everything. Just wondering i have put the pulleys and inserts on the bracket but it�s a bit hard to tell where it goes in your photo for the cutter clutch

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Having a closer look at the pics I think I have it right. If you can just check. The other thing is do I need anything else on the cutter deck before I install it. I do have the small wheels at the rear. Is there any other components required?

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Yep cutter clutch pulley bushes go against the belt guard. It looks like you have it right. I think it's another one of those situations where if it works it's right.

Couple of things on the cutter deck. I'll take a couple of photos for you.

I get the feeling you're keen to get this sorted. I'll try to be as quick as I can

Cheers,

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Haha cheers mate don�t stress about the time frame. It�s been a project I�ve been working on for a long time now. I even spoke to the greenfield company in Brisbane a little while ago and they couldn�t help me at all except give me a parts diagram that make no sense at all. I think I�m just a bit excited that it might be going again soon.

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Morning Jared,

I have tried to take some photos. Apologies once again for the quality. The light in that part of the shed is horrible and the deck I was photographing is tucked away under other things.

It looks like you have the cutter brake sorted. This will be attached to the cutter clutch at a later date with a piece of wire - literally.

The bracket just forward of it needs the 'u' shaped belt keepers bolted on each side once the belt is on. I'd probably slip the belt over the pulley at this stage. I only noticed one of those 'u' shaped brackets in your collection. Do you have the second one?

Also, there should be a cranked (bent) bolt at the front of the pulley to also act as a belt keeper. Note that once the belt is on it gets rotated 180 degrees from how it is in my photo. This bolt has to be there.

You also need the other mounting bracket that I noticed in the collection.




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Ok thank you for that I�ve ran out of time today but I will have a look for the parts tomorrow arvo after work if that�s ok and will let you know

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Hey mate. So I have had a look I assume the u shaped bracket is this one in the photo. That is the only one I have. And that bent bolt you were talking about I don�t have tha either. If I get the right size bolt is it easy enough to make one or is there a tolerance that it�s made to?

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Yep that's the bracket. I guess it's something you could fabricate if you wanted to otherwise I can send one.
Similarly I can send you a cranked bolt or you can make one. Dimensions aren't super critical. Length is such that the head sits slightly higher that the pulley (by about a 1/4" or so). It's attached with two nuts- one above the deck and one below. Probably should be a spring washer under each nut as well. You want a minimum of excess thread sticking through on the underside of the deck when you're finished, of course. Bolt diameter is 3/8", I think but confirm with the size of the hole in the deck. Crank in the bolt is such that it will prevent the belt coming out of the pulley when the cutter clutch is disengaged.

Also, in your collection of bits you have a piece of flat bar 1" wide and about 10 or 12 inches long with a fairly big hole in each end. You need 4 of these. These are the bars that form the parallelogram ( one on each side ) that support the deck. The large holes in the bars (1/2" or 9/16" diameter) are bushed with loose bushes with an ID the size of the studs in the deck mount brackets. I guess these are 3/8". Bushes are slightly thicker than the thickness of the bars such that the nuts can be nipped down firmly and still allow the bars to pivot. There should be wave washers here too but to be honest I don't think they do a great deal and I'd be happy to leave them out.

Photo coming.

Cheers,


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Ok no worries when I get the chance hopefully tomorrow I�ll collect a few things and fabricate the parts needed and see how I go. I might be able to get most of it done over the weekend but might need to wait till next week to get the lathe at work to make the bushes. Thanks again

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Photos as promised

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Ok I�ll see how I go this weekend thank you

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Evening Jared,

Ummm,

I need to make a correction. I said earlier that you need 4 bars to make the deck lifting mechanism. You do. What I didn't mention was that the top one on each side has an extra bit welded onto it. If you look at the photos above you can see that the top arms have a lug that attaches to the height adjust chain ( that we'll talk about soon).

I've attached photos. Note the hole in the lug is slotted. It's used to make minor adjustments to the deck rigging so it sits true.

Apologies Jared. This is what comes of trying to work from memory with a couple of ales under ones belt smile

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you are in good hand's Jared,

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Yes I believe I am thank you. Ok I ran a bit behind on time today but I have started making the extra brackets that I need. I will make the extra bits required. I will try and make the extra u shaped bracket first in the morning I'm not entirely sure whether it will work out yet or not. Will see how I go. Thanks again

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G'day again Jared and gml,

Just a couple of quick photos detailing the attachment of the top deck bar lugs to the height adjust mechanism. Attachment is via a small chain link. Total length of the chain is about 3". The chain allows the deck to ride over rough ground. Attachment of the chain is simply a bolt of sufficient length such that the chain can move freely and the lug on the bar is clamped. Note the outer nut is nyloc and the inner one plain and they have a washer under the nyloc nut.

I've been doing a pretty serious shed clean this weekend and have been constantly walking past one of my wrecks in particular and noticed/remembered that the cutter clutch mounting to the frame is also bushed. I didn't mention this last weekend when we were discussing the cutter clutch. Usual story, bush OD and ID to suit the hole and bolt and slightly thicker than the lug so the bolt can be snugged down while still allowing the mechanism to pivot freely.

Apologies for this. If you'd like me to post you some or all of these bits rather than you making them I'm more than happy to.

First two photos show the deck attach. Disregard the long bolt through the chain. This is someone's idea of a 'repair'. Third photo is trying o show the bush in the cutter clutch mount lug.

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Ok no worries I just bout ran out of time this weekend typical of trying to get it all done and getting interrupted by the kids haha. I have managed to make the brackets required photos are shown. I hope they will work. My only qualm is the bent bolt. Is there a chance you could send me that or if it's easier to take a few more photos if it so I can see the alignment of it in relation to the pulley. Also is there one bend or 2? In regards to the bushes I will hopefully manage to get them done tomorrow at work if not I will let you know. Thanks again

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Also I was meaning to ask. The bushes that are in the straight brackets. Are they press fit or loose and snug?

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Ah, yes! I remember those days not so long ago. Getting nothing done on weekend chasing around after kids! The passing of those days is bitter-sweet. I've got my time back and that's great but I miss it too, for sure.

Brackets look great! I can send a bent bolt no worries.

All the bushes we are talking about are a loose fit. The pivot/movements is between the outside diameter of the bush and the bracket. The bolt is done up firmly so the bush is clamped to the bolt- hence the need for the bush to be slightly thicker than the bracket it goes into.

Cheers,

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Yeah still waiting for that to end haha. The kids keep you young at heart though can't blame them for what they need/want.

I'll see how things go this couple of days with work. I should hopefully get the bushes machined up and get ready for the next section. Thanks

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Hey how's your day been? I have managed to make the bushes needed for the brackets. One thing I have noticed on the cutter deck is there supposed to be 2 brackets attached to the cutter deck as shown in the pic? If so I'm going to either have to get that or fabricate another one as well. I'm assuming that the cutter deck is attached the same on both sides of the body?

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G'day Jared,

Ah! Nut on wheels!!

You're right. You need another one. Sorry Jared. For some reason I thought I saw the other one in your collection of bits but I've just looked again and it's not there. I'll get a bracket and the bent bolt in the post tomorrow so you'll hopefully have it for the weekend.

Again, Apologies.

Today was pretty good, but that usually means it's just the calm before the storm. smile
Hope your day was good too.

Cheers,


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