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Deutscher 360
by NormK - 03/01/26 12:39 PM
3-stud rear wheels and axle flanges
by wilbur - 03/01/26 11:15 AM
Suzuki Rover 2-stroke (M122X)
by AdamTwoStroke - 01/01/26 11:33 AM
Scott Bonnar ID
by Leifc145 - 29/12/25 08:09 PM
B&S 20hp hunts through the rev range.
by mm-mowers - 26/12/25 04:47 PM
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Suzuki Rover 2-stroke (M122X)
by maxwestern - 04/01/26 09:06 PM
3-stud rear wheels and axle flanges
by wilbur - 04/01/26 10:52 AM
Deutscher 360
by NormK - 03/01/26 12:39 PM
Austral Villiers Engines
by Lumberjack91 - 01/01/26 10:43 PM
Stihl FS36 - Died at full revs
by maxwestern - 30/12/25 04:49 PM
Scott Bonnar ID
by Leifc145 - 29/12/25 08:09 PM
B&S 20hp hunts through the rev range.
by mm-mowers - 29/12/25 12:04 PM
Warning re increasing speed
by maxwestern - 27/12/25 03:47 PM
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Questions On Rover Engines Jump to new posts
Re: Suzuki Rover 2-stroke (M122X) maxwestern Yesterday at 10:06 AM
Hi Adam,

M122X possibly 1989 to 1994


M120X → nominal class ≈ 120 cc

M122X → nominal class ≈ 122 cc
121–122 cc (often quoted as 121.5 cc)

As far as I know

Parts are functionally M120X

Every confirmed M122X owner who has rebuilt one has found that:

carburettor

crank seals

ignition

piston & bore

gaskets

…match M120X specifications.

In practice, suppliers, rebuilders, and forums treat M122X = M120X for parts purposes.

From what I've read the carbies are different or jetting and governor linkage.

A local mower shop should be able to clean the carby or do it yourself,

Old mowers are cheaper than parts ,usually you can find one for $10. or thrown out ones in scrap metal.

Cheers
Max.
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Questions on Greenfield Ride On Mower Frames Jump to new posts
Re: 3-stud rear wheels and axle flanges wilbur 03/01/26 11:52 PM
Thanks Norm,

just for future reference, as I always have the diff locked for the hilly area I mow, would a Greenfield without diff lock be just as effective as one with (in locked position)? I assume it would, but....... And if so, did Greenfield make 34 inch units without diff locks?

I work the mower fairly hard because of the slopes and although the area gets more and more manicured, I still hit the odd rock or two, and have in the past broken decks. Drive failures seem to occur as per MattDT's 2019 Greenfield Fastcut Transmission overhaul (short shaft) post- stuck in forward or both forward and reverse simultaneously- hence I've had a play with rebuilding a transmission (although without the knowledge that MattDT made accessible in his post- hence a less than perfect effort). Up until now I've purchased second hand units with a few hundred hours on them and run them successfully for 4 or 5 years (I average 60-70 hours mowing per year) before I break a deck, an engine fails or the drive clags up. I then buy another. Lack of cash prevents me spending the big dollars on a new or nearly new unit, unfortunately.

Prior to discovering the wheel problem described in my post above, I had just finished the transplant of a transmission/drive unit I had rebuilt a few years ago (rebuilt meaning pulling down and replacing corks- not going to the lengths I should have) from a defunct a 20hp unit (governor failure as per my first post many years ago) into my current 13hp unit. I noticed that the main visible difference between units was the use of cuphead bolts and nuts securing bearing shells (?) to chassis in the 13hp, meaning the cut out in the clutch pulley is needed, whereas in the 20hp unit standard nuts and bolts are used, and there is no need for a notch in the pulley. I've yet to test it out, but I'm hopeful it will work long enough for me to do a proper rebuild of the removed drive, paying careful attention to MattDT's wisdom, which seems to suggest biting the bullet and spending close to a thousand dollars on new components such that I should get many years of trouble-free drive......Should you or anyone else have any knowledge of issues associated with such a transplant, please let me know.

Oh, and I'll let the forum know should my wheel stud fix not work as hoped. Otherwise you can assume the bolts welded in nicely and the wheel was reattached.

Thanks again.
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Questions On Honda Engines Jump to new posts
Re: Victa Panther LE with knocking GCV160 pondering my options NormK 03/01/26 05:55 AM
Crank lengths are close enough, but you might have to play with the boss lengths but no big deal
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Questions Ride On Mower Transmissions Jump to new posts
Deutscher 360 NormK 03/01/26 01:39 AM
I am looking for a gearbox for an R360 Deutscher if anybody know of one kicking around Melbourne or the surrounding area. A complete mower or parts mower is fine as long as the gearbox is ok will be fine
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Questions on Other Engines Jump to new posts
Re: Austral Villiers Engines Lumberjack91 01/01/26 11:43 AM
Gday all, hoping this thread is still alive and active. I have recently picked up an AV everyman 15-inch cylinder mower. Runs really nice, although I need to fix the throttle at the carby. I see you guys are chasing part numbers etc so I will post what I have, hopefully in photos if I can figure that out.
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Questions On Honda Engines Jump to new posts
Re: Honda GCV160 on Victa Mustang - stalls on idling and very high rev maxwestern 30/12/25 06:37 AM
Hi Ezyyy111,

It's good you have the governor working now ,if you weren't able to fix that it wouldn't have been worth spending more time
fixing the engine.

There are also a few online repairers showing how to check the carby is cleaned out completely.



These engines idle at about 1800 rpm and you usually cut grass at 2500 to 3000 rpm so I've used mowers
that it was unnecessary for the engine to idle when I've used them to cut grass ,as long as the motor
isn't hunting.

Cheers
Max.
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Two Stroke Trimmers & Brushcutters Jump to new posts
Re: Stihl FS36 - Died at full revs maxwestern 30/12/25 05:49 AM
Yes Stihl made it difficult on this model AMP to get the primer bulb in, good that it's running now.

I've never had a shortage of snippers from tip shops for $5. or free at the side of the road so I've never had to buy a cutting head.

I think all the FS36 Trimmers I've had ,the oldest were from the nineties ,I did see an early one online that sounds like your one.

This is what is on my FS36 AutoCut 11‑2 (4004 710 2192) not sure if this fit's the earlier model without comparing one.

Officially listed for FS36: The FS36 owner’s manual and dealer listings show the AutoCut 11‑2 (4004 710 2192) as the correct mowing head for that model and similar-era units.

Right size and weight: It is a light, semi‑automatic dual‑line head designed for small trimmers, so it suits the FS36’s power and curved shaft without overloading it. It works best with 2.0–2.4 mm line.

When it’s “about the best”
For normal lawn edges, grass, and light weeds, the AutoCut 11‑2 gives a clean cut, easy bump‑feed, and uses the standard guard/limiter blade on your FS36, which makes it the most balanced, low‑hassle option.

Only if you do mostly heavy, rough stuff where plastic blades are preferable would a PolyCut head be “better”; for general use, AutoCut 11‑2 is the sensible main head to run on your FS36.

The earlier model FS36 to mine could be a different cutter head as I did see another type it was the last image below.

It's usually best to use what Stihl recommends as it won't overload the trimmer.

Cheers
Max.
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Show and Tell Jump to new posts
Scott Bonnar ID Leifc145 29/12/25 09:09 AM
Hi, just got this Bonnar. Not sure about it. Seems quite old and different from a lot I see. E.g. it has 3 independent front wooden rollers and is belt driver, not chain. If anyone can tell me anything about it that'd be great.
Serial number 42683
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Questions On Briggs & Stratton Engines Jump to new posts
Re: B&S 20hp hunts through the rev range. mm-mowers 29/12/25 01:04 AM
G'day,
I removed the rocker covers on both cylinders, checked the rockers for cracks, checked to see if there were bent or damaged push rods(all good). Then checked tappet gap both sets were in spec. I had couple of spare Nikki carbies so I swap over the internals and it still hunted but it ran better, then I had a thought I have had a Briggs V twin in for repairs a while ago it wasn't running right a bit like this one. So I removed the "sump" and found the " paddle" had come off the govenor shaft, replaced it new new governor shaft and it fixed the problem. But i think I will get a new carby first before I pull the engine out and strip it down.
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Questions on Greenfield Ride On Mower Frames Jump to new posts
Re: Warning re increasing speed maxwestern 27/12/25 04:47 AM
I'd probably just weigh the front down and put a roll bar on the back.
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Off Topics Jump to new posts
Re: Testing for spark maxwestern 27/12/25 04:43 AM
I still like these testers but not worth it for a $50. mower.



Cheers
Max.
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Questions On Ride On Mowers Frames Jump to new posts
Re: Lth2142 vibration stumped NormK 27/12/25 01:42 AM
Good call there AVB, something is obviously bent somewhere
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Two Stroke Lawn Mower Frames Jump to new posts
Re: Frame ID please maxwestern 24/12/25 09:12 PM
It's about mid sixties and is a Pope mower base.
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Questions on Edgers Jump to new posts
Re: Victa full crank edger maxwestern 24/12/25 05:13 AM
Hi Norm,

I've had this problem on old Victa 18's there's a few ways that will work but depends how bad it's stuck. I just cut the bolts with
a hacksaw the problem here is the bolts are low grade steel so a bit of force to undo them will snap them and hammering
mushrooms them making them impossible to remove.

You can heat the bolts underneath with the oxy ,once the nuts are removed , heat then spray with crc ,heat again spray with crc
a few goes of heating and spraying crc can work to loosen the corrosion and rust.( you want the lot upside down to do this)

If you hammer the bolts put a block of wood on them and hammer one at a time

You can't hammer them that much as mentioned before they will mushroom and makes them impossible to remove.

You can drill the bolts from underneath ,I mostly have drilled from the underside just so the top can't be damaged if the drill was to slip.
I would usually cut the bolts from underneath close to the base so there is less to drill.( bolt cutters and grinder usually work)

Some engine I've got 3 bolts to move but can't get the last one to move and have to drill it from underneath .



You can cut the bolts above the base or body then arc weld the nuts underneath the base to the bolts and then see if they will
undo with the rattle gun but best to undo by hand if you don't want them to brake and any movement you get , you keep slowly
tightening then loosening backwards then forwards with crc until they come out.

Only other way I've done it is to turn the lot upside down then with the nuts removed from the bolts put white Vinegar around the
threads , you can put paper towel around the threads this will keep them wet but you will need to keep putting a little vinegar
on the paper towel every day and could take 2 weeks to loosen.

The quickest way I think if it's completely stuck is cut the bolts on the top side wire brush the threads you can get to with a brush in
a drill then arc weld the nut on close to the underside of the base ,do one at a time ,try tightening and loosening to get it to move
but look on the other side make sure it's moving otherwise it will snap the bolt, If that doesn't work you have to drill them but if you drill
from the top sometimes you only drill half way and the nut that you welded will turn ,the weld gets the heat in as well, lots of crc.

Cheers
Max.
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Unusual Customisation Projects Jump to new posts
Re: Rover Victa ROVIC Mower maxwestern 22/12/25 06:20 AM
Hi all,

I just had another look at this LPG mower and why the new carby wouldn't work well on LPG.

I didn't spend much time on it fixing the problem ,just drilled the gas fitting out a couple sizes larger and put an angled edge
on the brass inside of the carby also I had to change the throttle shaft as before I hadn't noticed where the carby
linkage fits in is slightly different on the gas carby as it was for horizontal shaft motor and I'm using the vertical shaft motor.

One extra thing I did was install a plastic fuel tap on the petrol fuel line.

Turned the bottle on and it ran well but had to adjust the lpg down so the fitting most likely is drawing LPG better now.

It ran well on petrol too, no problems on either fuel.

Instead of using the alloy fuel bowl, I've installed a metal one.

Cheers
Max.
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Cylinder Jump to new posts
Re: Star Poducts cylinder mower Brock O 21/12/25 10:48 PM
Originally Posted by Brock O
I just brought one of these off market place on Tuesday, only $200 runs really well. Only got about 60sqm of lawn, hopefully it'll do the job.

I messaged Brisbane Cylinders Mower Specialist about this make/model and they said the supaswift/bush ranger parts will fit straight on, not the Scott bonnar/rover 45 parts
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Reel Lawn Mowers, Atco & Villiers etc. Jump to new posts
Re: SB 45 new clutch for new motor DDD 21/12/25 02:15 AM
Hi Maxwestern,

Thank you for the reply.

I will order the clutch body and proceed to rebuild.

Regards,
Jim
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Lawn Care & Maintenance Jump to new posts
Re: Using Roundup At Half Rates On Common Couchgrass mice_elf 18/12/25 11:43 AM
The End Result...

The lawn was initially Double cut, and then Single cut in two directions, without using the catcher. [See pic attachment]

The reason for that is that all the clippings, still hold fertiliser from the initial application, and they will leak this back into the surface, providing more nutrients to the lawn itself.

I Backlapped my SB Model 45 - 17" [7 Blade Cylinder, using 3 pastes, starting with course, then medium, and finally fine], throughly before doing this, as it needed to be a clean and sharp cut, and the reason for that is, any bruising or damage to the couch, would leave me open to fungal diseases, such as Helminthosporium 'Helmo', or Clarireedia 'Dollar Spot'.

I can not stress enough here, that your cylinder & bottom blade need to to be in A1 condition, especially at this time of the season. The reason for this is that you need to remove the early morning 'Dew', and the best & easiest way to do that is to give your lawn a quick syringe with a hose, before the heat arrives.

My only regret in all these posts, is that I don't possess a Lawn Roller apart from the split one on my Scotty.

Merry Xmas & a Happy New Year to you all, that read this,

Regards,

mice_elf
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Questions on Other Engines Jump to new posts
Re: xceed EX200G 2200W generator carbie ID please MowingManiac 18/12/25 04:27 AM
Hallelujah ! The generator is now running perfectly without me needing to buy any new parts. Managed to clean out all the passages in the carbie, made a few gaskets, got the majority of the crud out of the fuel tank and put a filter in the fuel pipe to catch whatever comes through in future.


Thank you to Max and AVB for finding a possible replacement carb for me. The one Max suggested looked good enough but AVB's one is identical to what I have.

Between Max, AVB and Norm I reckon any problem with mechanical devices could be solved. I am very grateful to be able to ask questions and receive such excellent advice on ODK
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Questions on Rover Ride On Mower Jump to new posts
Re: Rover ranger friction drive set up KevinJP 18/12/25 01:37 AM
Well, some good news. After sending my Rover Ranger friction plate to W.A. and 5 months of waiting, it finally arrived back today. We have an old-fashioned brake service company in town, and they knew where to send it.

They said it might take while and they were right. They had to get one of the older employes to show to the younger guys how to bond a new surface onto it. $150 but it looks great, like a bought one.

Happy with that.
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Tip & Curb Side Finds Jump to new posts
Re: Any info - Gardener with Hurricane motor? NormK 16/12/25 09:41 AM
Body got thrown out over 45 years ago Max because I wanted a catcher. I picked up a pope 4 stroke with a rod through the side but it had a side catcher. I fitted the Hurricane motor to it and I used that mower for years until I decided a rear catcher would be so much easier to use
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Rotary Jump to new posts
Re: Gardener/ Hurricane info needed maxwestern 16/12/25 07:50 AM
Looks like an alloy head on the Hurricane 2 stroke motor and the starter pulley looks to be the later one so I would say it's late fifties
to early sixties.

No information has survived on these rare Gardener mowers apart from what is on ODK.

People Who Might Know:

Old Mower Shop Workers: , people who worked in small mower shops in the 1950s and 1960s could be some of the few who remember the Gardener 18, especially if it was sold locally or regionally. It’s possible that even some of the shop owners or repair technicians who handled them might recall specific details, especially if the mower had quirks or was unusual for its time.

Realistically, though, anyone who was actively working in a mower shop in 1960 would likely be at least in their 90s today. So, finding someone with direct knowledge is rare, and even if you do, their memory of obscure models might be a bit hazy.

What has already been exhausted looking for info on this model.
Online Forums/Groups
Vintage Mower Restoration Experts:
Old Manuals/Ads


Cheers
Max.
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Idle Chatter Jump to new posts
Victa Lawnkeeper with Tecumseh motor MowingManiac 14/12/25 11:53 AM
Did a job of work for a nearby rural property owner and got to chatting about how he got on during a 30 hour power outage we had a couple of weeks ago, outages are a frequent occurence around here but not often for such a long time. I was telling him we got by with just a small 240V AC inverter running off 12V DC batteries to charge our phones and rechargeable AA and AAA batteries, run a few 240 V appliances and keep a few lights on, can't use it to run the fridge or freezer, it is too small. He told me they just tough it out and mentioned he used to have a generator but it stopped working because of carbie probs.........

Today I picked up his generator and he also had an old mower sitting there waiting to be sent to the tip, also with carbie problems and allegedly in need of a new piston and rings. He had since bought a ride-on and another Honda mower.

So, after some minimal fiddling, cleaned air filter and a new sparkplug the mower runs superbly. Did half an hour mowing, drained jet black oil and replaced with fresh oil.

The generator is an Xceed EX200G. The fuel tank was full of rusty crud as was the fuel tap and the needle valve needed brute force to remove but I got it running nicely by filling the float bowl with fresh fuel. May need a new carbie.

I hadn't seen a Victa with a Tecumseh 4 stroke motor before. I have had some Tecumseh 2 strokes.

Always worth a chat when visiting rural properties.
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Questions On Cox Ride On Mower Frames Jump to new posts
Re: Mower is making strange noise,diff problem? leslloyd 12/12/25 04:33 AM
Final post here to show Cox differential on the 25K96 model,circa 1996-8.Took her apart as I wasn't sure if it was lubed up and there's no way of telling,there was HT grease there but the gears teeth were dry so topped it off with Veedol semi liquid grease.Everything looked good in there,2 bushes,one bronze and one small sealed bearing,nice solid unit.So I can rest easy now knowing that's lubed.
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