OutdoorKing Repair Forum Forums Repairs and Maintenance Questions on Walk Behind Lawn Mower Frames Victa Lawn Mower Frames Commando CMS201D Carby Question

G'day All,

Victa Commando 2 Stroke, Model:CMS201D Serial No:1044-397

Today I finally decided that trying to race around the Back and Front yard before all the fuel ran out through the Carby wasn't worth the Chest Pains and Stroke I almost had.

After reading the Forums, I see that I did the Classic "remove the White Cap and lose all the parts" procedure to a T (insert slap my forehead emoticon here).

Before anyone points me at the Documents you have here, I don't have Paypal, so I'm hoping someone can answer a few questions for me...Please!!! (my best begging look).

Question 1: Is the Brass Screw (I assume you guys call it a Jet) suppose to be very loose in the White Cover??? I expected it to be a fairly neat fit.

Question 2: What the heck is the Needle made of and look like??? I found a greyish plastic pin on the floor, about 10mm long, domed at one end, pointed at the other and with 3 fins running along it.

Question 3: If what I found is the Needle, where does it go??? I tried putting it in the hole where the Brass Screw goes, but it doesn't go deep enough for the Brass Screw to screw in behind it. I can see a white hollow piece of plastic beyond/inside the threaded hole which does not appear to push in or come out.

Question 4: I assume the Float just hooks onto the Spigot moulded on the White Cover??? Although at this point I don't see how it actually does anything useful, but that's probably because I'm looking at a incomplete assembly and with my luck trying to put it together backwards.

Question 5: Am I missing any other parts???

The Seal is shot, so I know I need a new one of those, just wondering what else I might be missing (I noticed some posts mentioned a piece of wire) and if I have the actual Needle.

Man, a picture of the parts and assembly would make me a happy man I can tell you.

Thanks for any help or advice you can give.

Regards
John

P.S.
I forgot to ask, the Top Red plastic cover has a crack in it (my own fault ages ago), I was just going to use Araldite to repair it, unless someone has a better suggestion.

hi jonomg,

1, yes the jet screw should be a good firm fit.

2, the little plastic thing you found is the needle.

3, the needle sits in the hole above the float (there are 2 holes one has a brass ring in it thats the hole for the needle) it goes in pointy end first.

4, yes the float hooks on with the flat side facing up the needle drops onto the float you will see how it works when it is in.

5, you are not missing anything.

for some reason i cant seem to post the pic at the moment ill have to look at it tonight or email it to you.

G'day emmo1980,

Thanks for your reply, you cleared up everything for me.

The only thing that midly concerned me was the fit of the Jet Screw in the White Cap, the Threaded section is a neat fit through the White Cap, but the undercut for the Fuel makes it a loose fit when fully inserted.

However, I can see that once you align it within the guides and fully assemble the unit the slop is irrelevant. I just thought I might of lost a Jet Screw seal or something.

Below are 3 pictures of the Carby (just to make sure I have it all right) maybe it will help someone else that just wants to see what the parts look like and how they go together.

Carby Main Body


Disassembled Parts


Assembled Parts


If the Admins want to remove my Pictures or Snag them, that's fine with me, just trying to be helpful to others is all.

One last question: Is it recommended that I also purchase a New White Cap in case it is deformed in some way??? The Seal is obviously perished but the White Cap looks fine. Just wondering what people's experience has taught them.

Thanks again emmo1980 and Thanks to OutdoorKing for providing a venue to ask questions.

Regards
John

G'DAY john,

id just get a new seal and put it together if the cap looks fine, put it on turn fuel on wait a few minutes if it leaks then you need a new cap anyway id better get back to work lol.

G'day emmo,

Thanks again.

I'm in the process of cleaning (wirebrushing 11 years worth of) grass off the mower, the Blades are shot (luckily they gave me a spare pair when I bought it) and I'll repair the cracked Cover before I go get the Seal, never know what else I'll break ... I mean, find broken ... on the mower.

I'll post back to let you know how it all went.

Regards
John

hey john,

i "find" a lot of things broken as well lol.

G'day All,

I didn't find any other broken parts, I bought the O-ring and decided to splurge on a New Needle since the total cost for both was only $2.50, the lady at the shop did seem surprised that the original Needle was Grey though.

Assembled it all, cranked the Mower over and promptly filled the Shed with smoke, let it run till my eyes watered, then decided to take it outside and run it for 5 minutes.

Dragged it out the door, yanked the cord once, twice, three times and the bugger wouldn't start again. Dragged it back in the shed changed the Spark Plug, took the cover off the Carby and checked it, yanked the cord another dozen times and nothing.

Just as I'm at the Mild Stroke stage of yanking on the cord I look down and think, isn't the Tap in the OFF position???

Yup, you guessed it "Mr Dumbo" had turned it off and forgot to put it back on again. Turned it ON, two yanks and off it went.

The Mower is now running and looks Brand New, which is more than I can say for myself.

Using Araldite to repair the Cover was a bust, after 10hrs of having it clamped together it popped right apart again.

However I did find a (apparently new) product called Selleys Plastics Glue which can handle all Plastic's including Polyethylene (PE) and Polypropylene (PP). As some of you may know PE and PP has always been a bugger to repair, well I can tell you, this Selleys Plastics Glue works a treat and they aren't joking about the grab time being as quick as 2 seconds.

I applied the primer to both sides, a little glue along one side of the break, pushed together and it grabbed like a Dingo on a Baby, it was so fast I didn't have time to line up part of the break properly.

If you've got any PP or PE parts to repair I highly recommend this product (I'm already collecting all the broken Plastic bits around the house to repair). Apparently you can buy it with or without the Primer (I went for the one with the Primer as I wanted the best result), a lot of Hardware Stores haven't even heard of it. In the end I found it at Coles for $7.35, the Hardware Store said $6 something, but I would have had to wait 2 weeks for them to order it. Pricey for the 3ml tube of Glue you get, but worth the money to repair things made of PP or PE Plastic.

Anyway, that's my Mower all fixed now and I'm a Happy Man once again.

Thanks for the Information you gave me emmo, greatly appreciated mate.

Regards
John