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#119898 29/10/24 09:49 AM
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aitchey Offline OP
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Hi everyone just wanted to say hi and post a couple pics of the old Masport that I found at the junk yard! any info about this one would be much appreciated, i think its around the same age as me laugh

From what i can tell it just needs the recoil fixing, throttle cable unseizing and some damage to the fuel tank looking at, I have a few old tanks here but unfortunately not one exactly the same, always the way!

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Hi aitchey,

You should not have to many issues getting second hand parts or new for the engine as most parts are still available new just need the model and type which should be stamped into the metal cover either above the spark plug or muffler.

Throttle cable can be bought new if needed.


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Hi Bruce, thanks for the reply, do you happen to know what model it is, and if that looks to be the original engine?

If the engine is toast I'm set on the idea of sitting a modern b&s ohv engine on this base if possible and making a new vs old out of it, I have a spare 500e on a rusty base.

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Hi aitchey,

Looks to be a 1974 Masport President, the motor isn't original ,a lot of these Masports bases lasted longer than 2 motors
so people kept replacing engines when the old one was worn out.

I like this model better than the later 1978 model as the later model has a heavier (bigger) rear discharge cover that
vibrates ,rattles and thumps more than the earlier model when you use them without a catcher.

Some of these models the handle bars flop around on the base but you can change them to the better handle bars if
you have spares.

Cheers
Max.

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Hi Max thanks for the info, I had a feeling it should have a vertical starter style Briggs engine

The handles on this one lift up maybe 6 inches from their resting position I just thought that's how they were supposed to be?

Will give this engine some attention over the next week or so when i get time but if it annoys me im hoping the new style briggs ohv engine will bolt on this deck without too much fuss

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Originally Posted by aitchey
The handles on this one lift up maybe 6 inches from their resting position I just thought that's how they were supposed to be?


With age the handles move more than when new ,they did have movement when new but the later models
had the handles mounted solidly to the brackets.



Cheers
Max.

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Thanks Max I will have a look at the handles on mine tomorrow, who ever owned this was pretty handy with the welder! there's a few welds down in that area..

Scored a catcher for it today at the local junk shop for $15 pretty happy about that

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Looks pretty good their aitchey, matching colour as well

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Thanks very much NormK smile

I thought the sane and was pretty stoked to find it, it could even be the original supplied catcher from that exact mower turned up at the tip shop 12 months after the mower got thrown to the scrap yard

Itching to know if that old 92502 runs! thinking of starting it with the drill over the next few days just incase i am wasting my time repairing that old starter, if it runs I can move on to repairing the starter and trying to patch up that fuel tank somehow, the tank is different to most classic tanks as the carb bolt pattern is different

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Hi aitchey,

With the fuel tank, if it needs fixing it may be easier to get a later tank and carby from a later model Briggs if
you can find a mower thrown out as it will bolt straight on and has a fuel primer.


Cheers
Max.

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Hey Max, sorry for late reply I've had a busy few days

If I had of noticed your post before I picked up this old pedigree relick with 92502 on the weekend I would have gone that way, it has a good tank so I will get that all cleaned up and give it a go anyway if it's annoying to start I will source a modern tank

Are these engines a pain to start without the primer style carby?

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Originally Posted by aitchey
Are these engines a pain to start without the primer style carby?

Yes, the induction tract is long and takes a few good tugs on the rope for fuel to be sucked into the cylinder without priming, esp. when cold. I usually do 5 or 6 squirts from cold, none or 1 or 2 when warm/hot.

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With these old carbies it is easier to take the air filter off and tip a teaspoon of fuel in the throat, that way you have a better chance of starting them

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Originally Posted by aitchey
Are these engines a pain to start without the primer style carby?

Hi aitchey, it's just when you run out of fuel with the old carby it relies on manifold vacuum to prime the carby,
which usually requires a few attempts on the starter cord to start.

The later carby with the primer if it runs out of fuel you just hand prime and start first pull.

With the primer carby I only prime 3 times when cold and none warm with a good engine and it starts
first go ,the older worn engines may require one prime when warm to start easily.

If the primer carby runs out off fuel obviously it can take more than 3 primes to get 3 squirts of fuel
into the carby but you can get a feel for when it squirts fuel into the intake manifold.

https://www.briggsandstratton.com/na/en_us/support/videos/browse/prime-n-pull-starting-system.html

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Hey Max smile

That's not an issue mate, can always give it a few extra lazy tuggs smile

Plan of attack is to clean carb, fix recoil cord, service starter clutch and bearings, clean and re gap coil, flywheel & points. Hopefully it fires right up at that and behaves its self! if its good I will then replace the plug and change out the oil for either some HD diesel 15w40 mineral or marine 25W50 semi synth which I have in my hoards and been trying to use up, the 25w40 is excellent in small engines, got it at SCA on clearance for a steal and it acts like mono weight anyway! great stuff

These engines sit the opposite way around to late model B&S classic/sprint engines so I guess that means if i ever decide to swap out the engine for a modern b&s ohv engine i will need to re drill the base or mount engine in the opposite orientation

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