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#114942 14/04/22 08:54 PM
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well been awhile but i now have 2 colt 5's the second is a non runner presently but should be a gower shortly,it has been sitting under a house for about 9 years or so and has not been run in that time so might be time to pull out the plug give it bit of oil to see if it will loosen up a bit more so I can try to start it up.
I have already spotted the belt issue I was having with first mower as this one has all original parts which was the main reason I got it ,
as I want the pulley,rear hub,rear brake disk as on mine it has been changed to a thinner one which why the brake won't work, it has it's original Briggs motor

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noticed on this briggs engine there is no model number stamped on it ,it's not on top cowling anywhere or on the sides of the motor there was just a worn sticker with 206 cc model on it nothing else just seems a bit odd as briggs claim it should have a model series number etc stamped on it ,the guy that brought the mower said he restores these and if need parts or get a problem just send a message and he'll see what he's got.
got the carby off looks pretty clean inside but would need to be stripped and o/hauled,engine seems to tuirn took plug out seems to have compression but will sort out carby first then try and start it to see if it goes.

Last edited by fixin-it; 16/04/22 03:37 PM.
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been busy pulling bits of mower apart finally got flywheel off all covered with gunk under there points etc all rusted ,chain was siezed so it will be toast got it off without to much drama found serial numbers etc they had hand painted the top cowling with a thick paint and covered all the numbers not anymore
motor turns over fairly freely not much to the carby but dont know if any bits are missing I know the spring has snapped what is in the pic is pretty much all there was

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And you might find if you can pick up a Briggs Quantam coil you can do away with the points. I recently fitted a Quantam coil on a 16hp Vanguard twin motor. Works perfectly

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just a thought in case i do need to replace the motor which would be the best B&S drop in motor around same size as to what is in it now it's a 5 hp

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Seems to be a shortage of small vertical shaft motors with a 1" shaft at the moment

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was down tinkering with mowers and noticed that there is a difference on the decks of the mowers the guard around the belt on the mower I just got is different to the other mower,it's the green one in the pics,the white one is my mower it's a lot lower than the other one which could explain some of the belt issues plus ,the newer mower has heavier springs on it compared to the other one which has lite springs fitted to the inside of the chassis) compared to the other ,and it also has a rod that runs from the cutting deck below the heavy spring to the front of the mower thats not even on the first mower so we weren't far off saying it had been messed with ,

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anyone know where i can get new cutting deck wheels from need 4

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G’day

They look to be about 6” with a 1\2” axle size? Check the measurements to be certain.

The outdoorking online shop has generic steel wheels that look like they might do the job if they are the size they seem to be:

https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/tyres-tubes-and-wheels/lawnmower-wheels/universal-6-metal-wheel-wwp2378

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went over to mower shop just to see if he had that universal wheel and no he doesn't carry it he say it may not fit as it's 3/8 shaft and the wheel centre would 1/2 "
he is going to have a hunt around to find out what will fit and get back to me. got some more pics and close up's of shaft and the back front of wheel

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If the outdoorking ones aren’t the right size then a trip to an engineering supplier might get you what you’re after.

I use a couple locally and they both have catalogues for industrial wheels. They tend to be a bit more expensive than the ones I linked above. The suppliers have all sorts of industrial wheels from trolley wheels to load rated wheels for gantry cranes. I’ll see if I can find a link.

No, I couldn’t find any catalogues that are easy to link but if you search for industrial wheel suppliers you’ll come up with some possibilities. I had a look and there are a few around, some even allow you to search their range by size. It’s just a matter of finding some with the dimensions and ratings to suit your needs. There’s a large size and capacity range.

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didn't get time today to try and get the bearings out of the deck wheel maybe tomorrow, here's a good pic ,this is the only damage to the mower in what 42 years thats pretty good going,what i might do here is go round to the place that repaired the pulley and see if it's possible to repair this disc assy along with the D shaped hole for the blade.
as this disc is no longer available

the deck is now stripped had a job and a half getting the bearings out but got there in the end only had to cut 1 bolt off ,I should get my new ultrasonic cleaner this week it's a 6 ltr one so most of these parts will fit in it
it will get well used on this mower.

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finished cleaning up the cutting deck on the under side it's got a few coats of oil based under coat for now top of deck will get the same ,after cleaning all the crap off it's in not bad nick ,
no holes anywhere no splits so no welding needed ,which is good ,got the ultrasonic cleaner works pretty good ,cleaned all the rubbish off the bolts and other small bits handy thing to have. got the new tyres and tubes for front wheels ,just waiting for the new seat to turn up.

then after finishing painting the deck and fit it back on mower it will be time to pull out the rear end .and replace all the wheel bearings

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If I was repairing the blade carrier I would do the opposite side as well, cut a piece of plate about 80mm square 3mm plate,and drill a small hole where it is needed for the blade bolt then file the hole out to suit the bolt so you can get the flat side in it to hold the bolt. The reason for doing both sides is so you can get the balance right

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got the new blade carrier today,what would be the best size blades to put on it got new deck wheels, and new chain,still waiting on the seat to turn up.
blade carrier is for colt 8 28" cut,and this mower is the 25" cut.

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finally got the bits for carby on been over 2 months waiting,parts where the diaphram(mower shop stuffed up here I paid for 1 and got5) plus tank gasket ,new jet thats it ,
put it all back together and put on the engine hit it with some starter fluid and away she went fired up beautiful no smoke ran nice and smooth ,now that mowers gone from a big gamble to a good investment being that I don't need to replace the engine or strip it down
I had ordred the chain from the same place and again over 2 months so I cancelled it ,ordered from another place and within 4 days I had the chain

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Hi fixin-it,
I'm guessing without trying to look anything up about the blades but I'm guessing you would probably have to use the 25 blade carrier blades and cut 35/40 mm off them

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well at the moment the new carrier needs to be slightly modified to take the centre mounting from the old carrier just waiting on it being done tnen once it's fitted to the cutting deck I'll have a better idea of the blade size ,all that is left to done is pull out the back end and change the bearings and out it back together,front has been done and is back together ,gearbox is done and back together just the cutting deck holding it up a bit but theres no rush,main thing is the engine runs, though a few petrol leaks from the tank gasket area ,that was a new gasket I put on so it should'nt leak, then will have to sort out the govenor linkage ,but looking at the diagram it looks like there is a part missing off the carby

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been making progress got the rear end back from engineering shop as the pulley spacer and one of the hubs where seized on and needed a lot of heat to get them off with no damage, thats done,got the new flangette bearings and new bearing flange's as well ,got some more photos 1 of the new bearings and flangettes as they came from statewide, a shot of the belt aduster on the colt 5 it's just those prongs which are supposed to just touch the belt at all times in order to stop the belt coming off ,and 1 of the old bearing flange's ready to be changed over ,
just a case of tidying up the paint a bit mre won't be a show fininsh as long as it looks ok that'l do.

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