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#113906 26/01/22 01:00 AM
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Had a bit of a mishap today.

I was trying to use my butane soldering iron and the damn thing wouldn't start. It misbehaved last use, but today it went worse.

It always took a few goes to start (internal piezo spark). What turned out to be wrong this time was the little bit of silicone line that transports gas from the tank to the tip.

The stop gas button simply pinches the line, and this had worn through.

As I was trying to start it, the whole handle filled with butane. When it filled up to the top, the piezo got it

Whomp! Hand covered in fire.

Through some minor miracle, no burns, just no hairs left on most of my right hand.

All I can attribute it to is there was so much gas that it was a rich cool burn for the first couple seconds.


So, aside from warning others of these craftright soldering irons (bought for $15 on clearance at bunnings), what soldering irons do you guys like?

I have a corded one, but prefer battery or gas for portability.

Any suggestions?

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Tyler #113908 26/01/22 07:47 AM
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Hi Tyler,
Probably one of the biggest problems I have, no idea how many soldering irons I have gone through, anything you can buy these days are just junk, work ok for a while and then fail. Butane and corded all the same rubbish. Recently I bought a torch that runs off a BBQ bottle so I can pre-heat a Birko that was my fathers. Good iron but takes a long time to get up to temp so heating it up with the torch speeds things up

Tyler #113911 26/01/22 01:57 PM
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G'day Tyler and Norm


Originally Posted by Tyler
As I was trying to start it, the whole handle filled with butane. When it filled up to the top, the piezo got it

Whomp! Hand covered in fire.

Through some minor miracle, no burns, just no hairs left on most of my right hand.

All I can attribute it to is there was so much gas that it was a rich cool burn for the first couple seconds.

When I was a kid a few times petrol would burn on my hand but never burnt my hand as long as it was only a small amount of fuel
and the fire goes out in minimal seconds from lighting ,As we know it's the fumes/ vapour that burn from the liquid ,so fumes not having direct contact with your skin don't burn you as long as the fire is extinguished very quickly.

If a small amount of fuel is burning on your hand and you violently wave your hand around to put the flame out ,you will not burn.

It's a little like stopping a candle burning with your fingers.

When pinching your fingers around the flaming wick, you are quickly reducing the air to the flame and very quickly cooling the extremely fast (hot) atoms and molecules that generate heat to a more slow (cool) state. Between your fingers is little to no air and therefore nothing to combust.

I agree with Norm the Birko irons are excellent ,my Birko 130 w is at least 50 years old and still working.

The electric Weller aren't too bad ,my old one lasted 20 years before dying and was replaced with another about
10 years old now but probably made cheaply these days and I never leave the iron on unless soldering as they have
warnings now that they can burn out if left on and not in use.

When I google best soldering iron LPG, Weller came up.

I was given a Lotring iron and one with a 6v transformer ,they look old and still work.

My primus LPG torch works good but you need to use the 8.5 kg gas bottle for better gas flow.

Weller iron was bought cheap new the others all cheap second hand .

Cheers
Max.

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Tyler #113914 26/01/22 09:21 PM
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Hi Max,
this is the torch I bought https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/353834344274 but the thread into the bottle is wrong so I had to turn up a spacer to enable it to seal up. I notified the seller and told them they should remove them from sale until the get the correct nut fitted. Out of the blue yesterday they refunded the money and asked if I would be able to send them a correct nut so their supplier could manufacture them . The torch works really well and it has a very controlled flame that might even be hot enough to silver solder with. When I get a chance I will give it a try on some copper and see how it goes

Tyler #113917 27/01/22 02:33 AM
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I got one from Aldi a while back, a plug in one and it works quite well. It came with a handy holder with two alligator clamps to hold your work together as you solder. Is there a way you have to clean the tip periodically?


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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G'day Norm and Mf,

That's a bargain ,with a full refund that torch looks better than you thought Norm , I was thinking of trying LPG cutting with LPG and a
compressor for oxy ,not sure if that will work.I know I can buy lpg cutting tips for the torch.

Originally Posted by Mowerfreak
I got one from Aldi a while back, a plug in one and it works quite well. It came with a handy holder with two alligator clamps to hold your work together as you solder. Is there a way you have to clean the tip periodically?

Wet sponge works well Mf. If the end of the iron is too far gone for the sponge I would use a file or sand paper.



Cheers
Max.

Tyler #113922 27/01/22 08:01 PM
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G-day maxwestern, NormK and Tyler,

Mine came with a tiny postage stamp size sponge pad which I always use. Thanks for that useful vid maxw.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
Tyler #113931 28/01/22 05:37 PM
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Thanks guys

I think I might try a weller branded one next time. I have a friend with a tradeflame AA battery one he runs eneloop batterys it, nothing but praise for it.

It will end up doing more plastic welding than soldering anyway


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