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#113783 17/01/22 05:00 PM
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Hi all,

I've had a fair few of these seventies Sunbeam Mowers over the years and thought I would throw them all out as the bases are
badly designed in my opinion and thought I would explain the problem with the bases.

https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/76657/sunbeam-lawnkeeper-2-4-c1967.html

Jack has uploaded a Choice Magazine article here that confirms the base will crack with an unbalanced crank (ie one blade breaks off)

https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/u...e-two-stroke-rotary-lawnmowers-1971.html

The early models are even worse and Sunbeam must have known of the cracking base problems because the later bases
have a gusset cast in under the base to try and strengthen the base but still with the reinforced base it will crack ,the problem
that I can see as a design fault is the height linkage rod from the front axle to rear axle,as it runs through the bases side skirt, the
linkage runs through the slotted skirt ,this slot will weaken the base because now the skirt is unsupported.

A few pics of the Sunbeam below showing the problems .

Cheers
Max.
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Hello maxwestern,

what a shame as they were the best looking low arch mowers.

So what will you get for the total aluminium of those bases?

Last edited by Mowerfreak; 17/01/22 08:14 PM.

Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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Hi Max and MF

Is it my eyes or are the two pre Victa bases pictured different colours ?

Cheers
wce

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Hi WCE and Mf

The 2 early Sunbeam mowers are different as one was painted wce.

Yep but not worth fixing Mf, as a good one will take over a month to sell for $20 or less.

Just recently I've disposed of 35 alloy bases that was around $1.15 a base so around $40. a trailer load.

I would have easily thrown out 150 kg of perfectly good crack free bases in the last couple of years ,Masport .Rover ,etc


Cheers
Max.

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Max,
next time try the scrappy on the corner of Hammond and Greens Rd , I got $150 last week for a trailer load of bases there

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$1.15 a base strikes me as mean. Not worth lifting in and out of the trailer for those tight###s.
There's a local cherry picking (s)crap metal merchant my way who won't accept ferrous metal. Bet the worthless bludger pays even less.

Last edited by Mowerfreak; 18/01/22 06:08 PM.

Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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Last time I sold scrap bases I got twice that price but the price can fluctuate Norm , yes I may try that one thanks.

When I google what I sold it should have been $260.

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G'day Mf ,wce and Norm

I've asked about why the scrap price was so low and they said the further out you are from the docks the less they pay,
some places that I know off won't pay anything for scrap as they will only take it for free.

Yes a little mean some scrap places Mf.

Norm ,75 Dohertys Road Laverton North are $1.30 to $1.50 a Kg.

Cheers
Max.

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Max,
I didn't really take that much notice when they gave me the cheque but I think it worked out to about $7 a base, I made more money by selling the scrap than I do fixing the mowers. I thought he had made a mistake but I wasn't going back to ask him

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Hi Max and Norm
This topic adds a sensational richness to
the Sunbeam story.

Max, many thanks for your work and observations.
Sunbeam could not have been unaware of the Choice Mag article.

Max, I love the artistic 'S' chassis image.
Is the 'S' for Sunbeam or ... safety? grin

I will add a link in the History Record to this one.

Cheers
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Jack.

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G'day Jack and Norm

Norm $7 is fair price ,$1.30 a Kg would be $7.40 a base on average for the trailer load.


Originally Posted by CyberJack
Max, I love the artistic 'S' chassis image.
Is the 'S' for Sunbeam or ... safety? grin

It was the big S for the Sunbeam chassis Jack .

Cheers
Max.

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