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#108637 22/09/20 02:55 PM
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While waiting for a new coil for the Victa Silverstreak, I went ahead and purchased this Rover today for $15. Can anyone direct me to a manual, schematic or more info on it please? And to me it looks like there is something missing from where the throttle cable ends, what do you think?

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Oh no, the addiction. Its starting.

I suggest getting the local priest to do an exorcism before you end up with 20 mowers haha

Looks complete, just dirty. attached is a manual which should be about right.

This is copy and pasted advice from another thread with regard to this sort of engine:

The carby can be a pain - it has a diaphragm which probably hardened years ago. It should be part number CAM506 (GA spares - any mower shop should be able to source)
Be careful when disassembling the carb - it may have a hardish to source teflon washer and pin. Therefore, work over a piece of newspaper and look very carefully before completely removing the carby off the top of the tank and don't lose it.

Check the spark plug, if it is choked black and sooty, it is possible there is an issue with the carby and you will need the repair kit. Could just be the clogged filter though

Buy the cheapest oil you can find (old briggs aren't picky) and dump the old sludge. Capacity is around 600ml. Autobarn normally have a 15w40 out for $10/5L.

Air filter - looks like GA "air106". If the old one isn't rotten, wash it hot soapy water, dry, then recharge with 30-60ml of oil (chainsaw bar oil if you have it). The oil catches the dirt.

You could order most if not all of these parts from Bruce here at ODK - will be cheaper than mower shop most likely, if you aren't in a rush

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Thanks so much for that Tyler. Hee hee, exorcist, too true. I'm mainly just trying to keep myself occupied. I also discovered how to ID it, and found all the numbers to help. 1985 eh. If only I could have that year all over again!

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Ok, so its not the original engine. Deck is probably 10 years older. Engine made 3/10/85 - so 35th birthday next week. Spooky 85 is 35 years ago

As you have given a nice clear photo, here is the exact IPL (part list), the manual is the correct one.

Plus here is another doc that might be handy - Actually, it won't come up as its too big. Will try to work out another way

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Originally Posted by Tyler
Ok, so its not the original engine. Deck is probably 10 years older............. As you have given a nice clear photo, here is the exact IPL (part list), the manual is the correct one. Plus here is another doc that might be handy - Actually, it won't come up as its too big. Will try to work out another way

Interesting, thanks Tyler. So what would've belonged to that deck originally do you think?


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Basically the same thing, just orange or yellow

Similar to one of these. These old ones have points, yours has magnetron - which is nice

https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/77700/ROVER_-_Regal_-_c1975.html
https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=41715

https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/85061/rover-brochure-c1973.html

Although looking at deck shape, could be more like a 1978-9 deck like this. https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/u...ead/Board/107/main/8590/type/thread.html I don't know if the tank would clear the older model arch mounted plug forward.
Makes sense who ever put the engine on would put it on the same way as the old one that came off

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Oh no he got a Rover! This disease has reached stage two -other brands beside Victa! Off to the doctors now before it gets worse and you start collecting reels and ride ons.
Lucky I haven't reached stage three non rotaries. Stage four is kidding yourself you'll make a living doing this. That is rare luckily.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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I just got my 3rd reel and I still havent got the first going yet

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Originally Posted by Mowerfreak
Oh no he got a Rover! This disease has reached stage two -other brands beside Victa! Off to the doctors now before it gets worse and you start collecting reels and ride ons.
Lucky I haven't reached stage three non rotaries. Stage four is kidding yourself you'll make a living doing this. That is rare luckily.

Hahaha, I only decided on that Rover because it was the only one out of the half dozen in the junk yard that looked like it might actually be salvageable.

Originally Posted by Tyler
I just got my 3rd reel and I still havent got the first going yet

My kids would love mowing the acreage with a reel wink


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Reel would get pretty blunt quickly haha

How far would they get with a non motorized reel - I used one for 5 strips and put it out on the curb. Just a cheap ozito

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Hi all ,

I would have thought this Rover Craftsman to be 1985 ,I've had one the same but with a red base and I think
the red one was around the mid to late eighties so this could be the last of the blue base Rover Craftsman.



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Originally Posted by maxwestern
Hi all, I would have thought this Rover Craftsman to be 1985 ,I've had one the same but with a red base and I think the red one was around the mid to late eighties so this could be the last of the blue base Rover Craftsman. Cheers Max.

Thanks for that Max


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G'day guys,
Originally Posted by okidoke
Hahaha, I only decided on that Rover because it was the only one out of the half dozen in the junk yard that looked like it might actually be salvageable.
Any mower hobbyist worth their salt must have a B&S vertical pull. I found a SupaSwift with a 3hp magnetron a few years ago on a rubbish pile. I almost didn't grab it but I didn't have a VPB so that swayed my decision.

It sat for at least two years until I could be bothered to give a serious look at it. That moment change when I went for a wander near where I get my car services and spotted a SS catcher and grabbed that. Lo and behold it fitted right and all it turned out to need was a new clean filter element (freshly oiled thanks to info here) and a pair of Victa blades. It's one of my favourite mowers as it starts pretty easy and cuts really crisply.
Catcher likes to fall off sometimes though!


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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Had a think and the only way I can think to identify the base is by phone numbers (as stupid as that sounds). When specific capitals went 6-7-8 digits.

Brisbane went 7 digit in 76, so its after 76

These 3 brochures put on by cyberjack provide a better key

Their sydney number was as per Okidokes tag in 1975 https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/85262/rover-pocket-brochure-c1975.html

But in the 1980 and 1985 brochures;https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/95536/rover-rancher-brochure-c1985.html and https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/76144/rover-brochure-1980.html

Both state the sydney number as 6453555.

So by 1980, they were using a different sydney number.

Overall, it leans towards this mower being between a 75 and 79

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Originally Posted by Tyler
Had a think and the only way I can think to identify the base is by phone numbers (as stupid as that sounds)..........Overall, it leans towards this mower being between a 75 and 79

You sleuth you.


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Try this thread where I worked out the economics - zip ties v trimmer line on line trimmers

https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/94557/the-cable-tie-guy.html


When ever I do this stuff, this song from the 60s comes to mind

There coming to take me away haha to the funny farm


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I know that song well. Was on one of the very first cassettes I ever bought in the 70's


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G'day okidoke ,Tyler ,Mf and all

I haven't seen this Craftsman model pre 1979.

I would not trust the phone numbers on mowers in brochures as some mower ads ( pics) are not 100 percent reliable.


A few other images below.

Cheers
Max.

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Rover may have been better, but Victa knew how to make their mowers stylish and appealing to shoppers.
These Rovers are pretty boring looking. Even Supa Swift managed to look smart.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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Nice ones Max


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