i see now why you guys like the vc160's so much . got it running sounds great and i cant believe how much wet grass it packs into the catcher !!! a magic machine , still a little nothchy in the throttle though as im still working out how to fix these carb's . the corvette ran with a lot of work and seems a strong old girl but doesnt seem to crank fast enough , maybe spins it 2 or 3 times . wow both were smokey ! but cleared in about 3-4 min's and ran well . thanks for the help and advice . cheers Dave