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#89897 26/01/18 12:51 PM
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I have a little 12 inch Suffolk Punch.
I found it to be in quite good nick once I cleaned all the gunk off.
Then I found that the reason for the gunk is a cracked sump.
The poms have plenty for sale so I don't think the problem is insurmountable.
Pictures follow.
Happy Australia day
John aussie


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John A #89898 26/01/18 02:26 PM
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I can see you're another Scott Bonnar fanboy going by the pics of their catchers behind.
All I know is I hope British Leyland didn't own Suffolk lol.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
John A #89899 26/01/18 05:22 PM
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Certainly not the end of the world John, strip the motor down, find a fab shop in Adelaide that can tig weld it up and then find somebody with a mill to face the surface off and you should be good to go

John A #89904 26/01/18 06:28 PM
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Thank you. No doubt the SB and Qualcast can't be compared. This is interesting to say the least. Political correctness abounds with safety covers over every moving part. Not in the same league as the SB/Rover for quality.
Norm, thanks for your suggestion, I should think that there are plenty of tractor repairers out this way who could do the job. Not as keen as I have been with the Aussie tough machines though.
Cheers & thanks again
John aussie

John A #89910 26/01/18 11:20 PM
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Thank you. No doubt the SB and Qualcast can't be compared
G'day John A, M-F and Norm

I agree - the SB machines are quite different.
The Suffolk mowers and engines were great, honest machines.

The Qualcast Group bought Suffolk and the name was used for later variants.
In the UK the strive was to make lighter - and cheaper - reel lawnmowers.

The machine you have is really a Qualcast designed machine.
It was also branded as a Qualcast, Webb and Atco!

It can't really be compared to earlier days - when reel mowers were mainstream ...
but under attack from the dark side ... the rotaries.

Here is a selection of the Punch machines ...
Many thanks to the OLC for the short article.

Cheers
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Jack

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John A #89913 27/01/18 09:21 AM
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Geez i think i threw an old suffolk engine away the other day. I'll check again for the bottom sump. Failing that these do pop up on gumtree regularly. $40 for a complete mower

John A #89919 27/01/18 12:30 PM
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Cheers, I'll commence to pull the engine apart, but the temp. outside is winning at the moment and the top shed is a good 20 degrees hotter again.

Thanks for the photos & article Jack, I must say that I like those stickers, I shall have to see what Grant can get/make

This little thing will do up really well I think, although, as I mentioned, not in the same class as SB (& she looks pretty small alongside the Supercut.)

John

John A #90045 11/02/18 06:01 PM
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Thought that I would report a continuance of the little SP which I am finding to be a real treat.
Flimsy in a lot of ways but I think that it will be a good mower when finished
I am attempting (unsuccessfully) to empty my top shed and so will be selling two SB electrics which I shall post on the For Sale section of the forum.
Pictures of both are on the post links but I shall repost them with the adds, if anyone knows someone in the group who would be interested I would appreciate it.
Cheers
John

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John A #90071 11/02/18 11:41 PM
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Thought that I would report a continuance of the little SP which I am finding to be a real treat.
G'day John
Many thanks for the update - with great images.

I remember these on the showroom floor - but branded as Qualcasts.
https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/76700/qualcast-brochure-c1970.html

I was surprised to see your Punch version.
These sold very well in Europe, but had a niche market here.

I am certainly following this one.

Cheers
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Jack

John A #90076 12/02/18 01:12 PM
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Thanks, Jack,
I'm waiting on one bearing to come from England and a fan belt.
I had a few other photos but they were too large for the upload & I couldn't figure out how to reduce them with Mac's update.
I have yet to source a steel catcher
John

John A #90414 11/03/18 06:01 PM
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Just thought that I would supply an update on the (very slow) restoration of this little Punch.
Although it is comparatively simple alongside the 45, I have found that you need a third hand to keep all the bits in place while searching for that screw that is missing.
I am in the process of putting it together to check that bits are in the right places and here are a couple of recent pics.
A metal catcher has arrived in Australia & should be in my hands by next weekend. Plastic catchers are the norm for these little machines, but I think look second rate.
A cracked sump has provided the opportunity to have a closer inspection of engine internals.
Blades, bedknife (which keeps the 2 sides together) and bearings all in place & then I found 2 felt washers that should have gone in first.
All apart again tomorrow, but for now, a cup of tea.
John aussie


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John A #90416 11/03/18 06:28 PM
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All apart again tomorrow, but for now, a cup of tea.

G'day John
You are a great storyteller!
And I like your advice - keep calm and drink tea.
Awesome images too!!!

A great annoyance in this design was the ceremonial 'splitting of the frame'.
Better designs did not require this.

Even James May had difficulties on an old Suffolk ...

https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/u...ler-james-may-old-suffolk.html#Post75788

Very enjoyable
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Jack

John A #90418 11/03/18 07:30 PM
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Thanks, Jack,
I take that as a compliment because as it turns out, storytelling is what I do at: www.johnallan.online
I enjoyed watching James May, I love his self-deprecating style
Cheers
John A

John A #90447 12/03/18 06:15 PM
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I take that as a compliment because as it turns out, storytelling is what I do
Yes, most definitely, given as a compliment.

That's a very thought-provoking blog there.
I guess the beautiful irony is - your 'Bus of Life' is not an omnibus.

There is an eclectic list of topics there - and I hope members will find
things meaningful to them (as I'm sure I will find).

All the best.
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Jack


John A #90761 31/03/18 08:12 PM
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The little Punch is almost complete. I am turning up a split front roller on a (very patient) friend's wood lathe. So far I've decimated one forest of timber, but feel that I am nearing the required expertise. (Who would have thought such a little piece of wood could be so damned complicated?).
Anyway, I just couldn't wait for the final completion so here are the progress photos. I have to say that this has been a most enjoyable rebuild and I would recommend the Suffolk Punch to anyone who has not yet turned their hand to one of these little machines. Not in the same class as the SB (but really, what is?) however, everything fits with little difficulty and there is very limited hardware to bother with.
Cheers
John A aussie

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John A #90783 01/04/18 02:29 PM
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John A #90801 02/04/18 12:10 PM
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G'day John
I think this is the first restored one we have seen here.
The front rollers look awesome! laugh

Another one is saved.

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Jack


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