I have stripped a heap of motors down and I wonder if anybody knows what they accept as clean ally. I'm guessing they will class the cases with the cast sleve in them and the fanwheels with the magnets in them as downgrade and as the pistons will be diecast and that makes then not worth much
You have to find a way to somehow separate the different metals whether that be bashing them out or using cutting tools to achieve that end. If it's too difficult you have you accept the much lower rate for irony aluminium. With the flywheels that have magnets pressed into them, I have successfully used a hammer to knock them out after partially loosening them with a screwdriver. Otherwise I break them into chunks and submit the pieces with the magnets as irony aluminium and the rest as pure cast aluminium.
You must consider the sheer extra weight of the other metals with irony goes a small way to gaining a little lost ground. It's still worth more then ferrous metals.
Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
Thanks MF, it is what I figured, big problem is the cast iron sleves in the barrel casing. I have cut one in half and there is no way I can break the cast iron away from the ally, so I am thinking I have to cut the barrels off and let that go as contaminated ally. I haven't worked out which is the best way to go they offered me 50 cents a kg for the motors complete.and a 375 Briggs motor weighs about 6kg so that is about $3 a motor. The Chondas are lighter and the Quantams are a bit heavier
That's not bad actually, I get the going rate of 30ยข/kg for irony alloy. You have to also consider the time and effort of separating vs submitting whole. In one YouTube of a scrapper sending in copper electrical wire coated vs spending the day stripping them all with equipment he set up to make it faster, he worked out he gained $8 per hour for his efforts stripping them vs taking them in as is. He thought it wasn't really worth it unless you really need the $$ or have the time on your hands and don't mind doing it.
Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
Any alloy that has any metal parts is classified as dirty alloy and paid at a much lower rate, for eg alloy heads can't have any guides or seats etc.
Personally I would not waste my time even unbolting the alloy head off a briggs,I wish I got 50 cents a kg for a motor, around here they only pay .076 cents a kg for motors and 36 cents a kg for alloy including magnesium .
So if I go to where Norm goes instead of $87. I would have got $366.
Hmm I've thrown out a few trailer loads of motors and didn't get much but at 50 cents a kg I'll probably be scrapping good running motors.
I filled a 200 litre bin full of wiring once but got virtually nothing for it considering the time to fill the bin so never did that again.
If you are spending time dismantling motors you may as well drive around with a trailer picking up washing machines ,fridges , dryers for scrap steel as I see a few people that do that and it would make more money time wise in my opinion.
The only time if I was taking alloy off a mower engine is to smash it off with an axe or hammer and chisel.
Even mag wheels you need to punch the steel wheel nut inserts out otherwise the scrap price drops dramatically.
Hi Max, Yes I stuffed up, thought I was being smart, but you are right, just chuck the motors in the trailer and straight down to the scrap. Bit annoyed with myself for wasting time. I have always just taken them to the scrap and should have done so this time.
Hi MF, yes I do drain the oil out of them, I am just about to scrap another Chonda self propelled machine which is like new but has had ethanol through the carby, they remove the filter housing cover so that goes missing, then they keep pulling till they break the pullstart, then they dump it with no catcher so it is not worth chasing the bits to get it working again, so off to the scrap it goes
That is different Max, those motors are worth fixing up but dump the rest. I very rarely come across a Chonda that appears to have done a lot of work, most motors are nice and clean and would have a lot of life left in them, but 98% need at least a new carby to get them running and that just makes them not worth the effort. Just an absolute waste of energy and resources when the world is spinning its head about the climate problems
I hadn't seen the Honda for at least 5 years , it was sitting out the back with tin over it ,Shogun mower with Honda GXV160, looked new when I found it but covered in dust now, may as well scrap it for the good motor ,I see people advertise similar mowers to this now for $400. and 12 months later their still asking $400.
Very rarely do I find a Honda or Chonda mower that the carby needs replacing but years ago I'd also look for mowers in country areas as I'd find more vintage mowers and would find some Chonda mowers that looked new but the motors were stuffed (no compression or burning a lot of oil) about 10 percent of the motors were worn out ,the strange thing was sometimes the oil looked brand new as well as the mower.
Last time I ran the GXV160 it ran well, the last serviced yardking mower I sold for $50.also looked like it wasn't used much but still took a couple months to sell ,5 years ago I could have sold 50 mowers in a month on one ad at that price.
Not worth fixing a mower on Saturday to sell for $50. when I can cut and split firewood in the back yard and make $1000. and the wood can sell in a couple days.
Getting rid of at least 60 motors and 8 ally bodies to the scrap tomorrow or Friday and then a load of bases and scrap steel possibly Saturday and that should clean up a bit of space. Then I will look at the catchers and start culling them, sick of keeping rubbish on the off chance I might need something
Getting rid of the catchers doesn't bother me too much Max, I just cut them into flat pieces and that way I can get a number in the rubbish bin each week. That gets rid of about 20 a month
Found another 12 motors in a shed up the back, so by the time I get those out and in the trailer it will total close to 80 motors out of here. Should get a couple of hundred for that lot. Still leaves me with probably 100 Victa 2 strokes, with probably 50 having been straight fueled. I will think about what to do with these
Hope you get a good price for the scrap Norm as the price dropped a lot here but even last time I went to your guy he only paid $1.30 a kg for the alloy mower bases instead of $1.50 a kg previously.
Just got rid of 40 catchers in 2 hours , the fire was hot so didn't smoke, had to completely flood the pit with water to put the fire out and the water just kept boiling for ages.
Should have thrown some tyres in as well. I'd love to be able to do that.
Burning tyres release toxic chemicals into the atmosphere. Benzene, xylene, ethylene, and acetone are among the most dangerous compounds released during the burning of tires. These chemicals have been linked to cancer and birth defects.
Itโs best to reduce use and recycle where possible. Of course, some plastic is burned in incinerators for disposal and for electricity production. This commercial incineration process occurs at much higher temperatures than a fire at home. If the fire is not hot enough it will smoke.
The fire I had melted alloy but I generally wouldn't recommend burning catchers , It's a pity we went to plastic catchers as the old metal catchers recycle themselves when they rust away. The catchers were stored a long way from any roads to get them out and I didn't want to bury them.
Our car tyres are burnt in india to make dirty diesel.
I've cut catchers up before Norm and put them in the bin but it's very time consuming and probably ends up getting burnt somewhere.
