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#114850 09/04/22 01:21 PM
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Found on kerbside... thought I had scored a Honda but it turned out to be a Masport.. came with a large metal catcher that was badly rusted.
Any idea what year it is ?

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kenny_t #114852 09/04/22 04:03 PM
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Hi kenny_t , I like that rear shute.....
speedy


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kenny_t #114855 09/04/22 04:45 PM
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kenny_t,
don't you be disappointed you have a real Honda motor there, great score, I don't understand why people put things like that out on the kerb. Looks like a GXV120 motor.

kenny_t #114856 09/04/22 05:27 PM
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Yes.. GXV120..love the aluminium deck and rear chute. The only thing that annoys me about these earlier mowers is the tiny front wheels the designers put on them.. I convert all my mowers over to larger wheels all round.

kenny_t #114857 09/04/22 06:14 PM
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Not sure what I will do with the rusted catcher

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kenny_t #114858 09/04/22 07:00 PM
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This is one I am fixing at the moment, GXV120 and put it on a Victa base, haven't tried it yet but should be ok. Used the Honda wheels on it. Paid $75 for the Honda mower, sold the catcher for $25, $7 scrap for the alloy base so I end up with a good deal I think. If your motor runs well you got a really good deal

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kenny_t #114859 09/04/22 07:12 PM
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Hi Kenny ,Speedy and Norm

This Masport was made between 1968 and 1977.

On the back of the base there should be a stamping and the first 2 numbers are the year ,the one I have in the
image below is 1977.

I like these a lot better than the later Masport that is similar but has a much more heavier rear discharge cover that
vibrates badly.

Hmm any base with a Honda motor looks better ,I was wondering what the Honda catchers would sell for as I've
seen a few for $10.

Cheers
Max.

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kenny_t #114861 09/04/22 07:39 PM
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Hi Max,
I put the Honda catcher on for $25 and it sold not long after I listed it. From memory the bloke came a fair distance to pick it up.
Just as an extra bit of info these Honda motors do not blot straight on to any Briggs bolt pattern. You have to drill new holes. From what I remember 2 holes line up from the PT motor base but require I think 4 new holes if you want to fit one to a base that had a Briggs on it. Bit of a pita but worth the effort

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kenny_t #114881 10/04/22 12:38 PM
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Mine was built 1979..apparently

kenny_t #114889 10/04/22 06:53 PM
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G'day Kenny and Norm

I'm not sure if this Masport was sold as a cheaper model along with the newer Masport .

The newer model came out in about 1977 (having the larger rear discharge door)

The latest early model that I have owned that had a Briggs so can date by the code number on the
engine was 1976.

The ones I've had with Briggs motors, the date on the engine matches the base stamping , but just don't
have a lot of information for when this model stopped without seeing the original Briggs motor on the base.

Norm , good to know the specs on drilling the Honda pattern as I haven't redrilled for a Honda swap yet but do have a cut of
a Victa base top with 2 and 4 stroke pattern so it just bolts on and you drill the holes without any measuring or
marking out so I could just add a few more holes to the plate for Honda. Saves a lot of time just bolting the
plate on and drill ,must have drilled out at least a 100 with the Victa steel top plate.

Cheers
Max.

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kenny_t #114893 10/04/22 08:04 PM
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Hi Max,
I made a a sheetmetal disc with the holes on it. On the Victa PT base looking from the front the 2 left PT holes are good , just need to drill the 2 right hand holes. When I did the Ariens I had to find the centerline through the base and then line that up with the centerline on the disc and then drill the 4 holes. Same issue I had with the mower I split down the middle but I knew none of the existing holes would line up. Also fitting the Honda on the Victa base meant I had to use the Briggs spacers but I couldn't use the ring as none of the holes lined up

kenny_t #114896 11/04/22 12:15 AM
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I saw one wheere a PT had been fitted to the SPFC steel deck. The red PT deck was cut and welded in.

Perhaps better is the old 1960s victa I picked up with a 187cc briggs off a rover - the guy made up a spacer (and possibly adaptor since it would have had a lauson motor originally) from a tree - yes a tree.

Looks like he cut a 'cookie' with a chainsaw of a tree about a foot in diameter, drilled some holes and that was it. there are washers, so maybe he did level it. Was an old guy who did it apparently

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kenny_t #114904 11/04/22 04:21 PM
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Wood is a very good material for that. It's strong, yet flexible and form fitting under load.
Whatever it takes to cut the grass.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
kenny_t #114908 11/04/22 06:56 PM
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Hi Tyler,
not sure why he would have gone to the trouble of welding the PT section in, all I did with one was cut the hole to the PT size, drill the new holes and cut a hole for the exhaust. Very simple job

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kenny_t #114912 11/04/22 07:41 PM
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Hi Norm and all,

I had wondered how far out the holes were on the one that was split down the middle ,thought you might have
welded a plate in the centre and drilled that but just needed the base redrilled.

The Honda Victa did look like it had to be lifted up to clear the muffler on the side just like when using a Chonda motor.


Cheers
Max.

kenny_t #114915 11/04/22 09:08 PM
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Hi Max,
with the split machine, because it had gone to 21 inch and I didn't lengthen it, I moved the motor back 25mm, so it was able to have the 2 rear holes drilled in the existing base, then I welded in a piece of 50x3 flat across the front and drilled the front holes in that.
The Honda Victa had to be lifted up the same as any Briggs/ Techumesh motor has to because of the longer shaft, muffler was not the problem. I did use a Briggs ring, mainly just to fill the gap, got 2 holes to line up and notched the ring to allow the other 2 spacers to fit

kenny_t #114928 13/04/22 10:48 PM
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Hi Norm

I've had a few mowers where people have shortened the crank with a hacksaw.

The split machine has to be a lot better than pushing that heavy Honda around.


Cheers
Max.

kenny_t #114930 14/04/22 07:39 AM
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Yes Max my mate is very happy with it


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