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Saw a new pallet of Victas in bunnings today

Was dismayed to find a extra generic looking Chonda on it - looks identical to the ones used on the cheap yardking mowers

Looks like this one may have a fixed throttle as well - just on and off. Unfortunately no display model.

All for $10 less than a regular Classic Cut

Not the first time this has happened I know, at least the V40 was one of the better Chondas (provided they didn't throw a conrod)

Wonder what they will come out with next...


https://www.bunnings.com.au/victa-18-tornado-mulch-or-catch-lawn-mower_p0260825

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Here's Aldos latest. Wish they had my regular kitty litter crystals available instead of this soon to be garbage compactor fodder.

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Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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MF I will ONLY use Aldi kitty liter as it clumps well and lasts......(I'm not sponsered by Aldi)
Just threw out one of those chonda motors without a throttle, at least it got to a year old. I am keeping the base as it's perfect, going to put a Victa motor on it.......
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Hi Tyler, Why would Victa owned by Briggs use a crap Chonda engine?

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G'day Tyler ,Mf , speedy and paul

Briggs were getting engines made in China in 2012 ,so I guess the cheaper the better.

https://www.americanmachinist.com/n...-stratton-plant-shifts-engine-production



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Tyler Offline OP
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I was wondering why anyone would spend $389 on one of these chonda tornado mdels when Joe Average looks to the next mower
in the bunnings aisle and sees the Classic cut for $399 with the engine 'everyone' knows is the most reliable engine in history;

a briggs and stratton OHV (cue my uncontrollable laughter).


Turns out he won't because Victa just put the price up $50 for the classic cut haha https://www.victa.com/au/en_au/product-catalog/domestic/lawn-mowers/classic-cut.html


They also have the new $359 'Sonic' with the 127cc 'Victa' Chonda - identical to the yardking.

Again I asked myself why anyone would not spend $10 more and get a 'ultra reliable' (snicker) Victa ultralite with 125cc briggs.

Victa already got that covered; and dropped the ultralite entirely haha.

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Hi Tyler,
the answer is very simple, joe average wouldn't know the difference between any of them, just like buying a pig in a poke

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Joe Everage -Dame Edna's 3rd cousin- splurged on the fancy Thunder and now Joe's listed it on Commonertree for 3/4 the new RRP among the other 99 there.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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Finally got to see one out of the box today at bunnings.

It is the same "Sumec" chonda as Yardking, Cheetah, etc. Pretty plasticy,

It does have an adjustable throttle though.

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So are you going to buy one then? I know I'm sold on that throttle.


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[align:left][/align]Good one MF...

I was actually thinking about what mower would I buy if I was to buy a brand new one.

My conclusion was the cheapest that is worth while is a 850 series Victa Mustang - alloy deck, 190cc Briggs IC, etc ... region of $850.

And it still wouldn't cut and catch thick grass as good as half the ones in the shed.

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Like my thumblatch base PT from the 80s. In surprised more don't realise how much better they work then the much more prolific steel decks.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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MF to most people its old - therefore it is probably stuffed and will never work as well as a new one

The fact it will still be cutting lawn when their shiny new chonda has blown up is of no importance to them - its not shiny

By the way, I find it funny the 3 crap reviews of this Chonda Victa on the bunnings website conveniently vanished

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What problems did they mention T?


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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Tyler Offline OP
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Only one I can remember was that it doesn't catch properly (in fairness probably the lawn they were mowing) and another with something wrong with the engine.

Then another saying it came in the box with the engine already half full of oil

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Didn't take long,

Victa are, for the first time ever, putting a chonda engine on part of the 'flagship' Corvette range (beside mustang) available only through gold dealers.

The entry level 18in will have the 144cc chonda - priced about $60 below the regular Corvette 100

They are also doing a corvette version of the 16in with the 127cc

Not on the victa website but it is on this site

https://www.[Censored].com.au/victa-corvette-v127-16-cut-catch-mower-2691904.html

Edit, thats interesting there is a censor on the website, try it this way https://censored/3psaAkC

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The American parent messing with Victa's traditions that have been established a long time?
It was way better under Sunbeam.


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Why has Victa allowed themselves to be associated with such rubbish as a Chonda??
It’s such a rip off!! And to think that Chinese companies can profit and associate themselves with the good name and reputation of Victa is such a shame. Makes me weep.

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Tyler Offline OP
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Victa have now done an absolute 'transformation' on their premier range

Of the 12 Victa corvette range available through gold dealers there are:

2 Battery electric

7 briggs and stratton

4 Chonda

Additionally, 2/5 of the top line Mustang will have 170cc chonda

That means a third of the range is now Chonda powered. And in my view these ones are not good chondas either. There are good chonda like loncin and the V40 and sanli aren't awful.

Edit - it would appear there may be one B&S model missing off the website, so nearly a third

The sumec ancillaries seem very chintzy - starters easy to buckle, all generally plasticy, there is no microswitch for the kill wire - just a little exposed bit that looks like a miniature spoon that hits the throttle and kills it.

To be fair, briggs did the same, but when it bends and doesn't work after 5 uses there is a problem (seen 2x already)

These sumec made chondas "grace" every bottom dweller from bunnings yardking to mitre 10 yardforce and throughout the USA

Without getting political, Sumec is under direct control of the CCP which explains a lot

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There is not much out there you could recommend to anybody looking for a mower apart from the $1100 Hondas. A few weeks ago I suggested one of these to a bloke and he nearly had a heart attack till I pointed out to him that it was costing him $100 to get his lawns cut. 11 mows and his mower had paid for itself.

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