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#110293 17/01/21 02:50 PM
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Just picked one of these up and managed to get it going after a new starter cord, carby adjustment and new blade. Can anyone advise what is the correct belt length as the blade stops turning in all but very light going? The engine revs seem to be steady so I am thinking the belt is slipping. This is the powertorque engine and it came with a 27 inch belt (M27). I have read that these can use 26, 26.5 and 27 inch belts. Is there a way to determine what is the correct length?

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Greg

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I have been told previously that any PT engined TAC with red deck uses m26, all later grey decks use m27 and any FC uses a m26.5

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Tyler #110298 17/01/21 07:19 PM
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Thanks Tyler. I will try a M26.

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G'day folks,

Tyler has it nailed here. Reference GA Spares' belt listings for the T-a-C; https://www.gaspares.com.au/search?q=victa+edger&submit=


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GregB #110320 19/01/21 09:00 AM
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How did that company get a virtual monopoly on supplying mower parts in this country?
Australia used to have so many competitors who coped okay with healthy competition. Now we have far fewer companies doing the same same stuff because "we have too small a market". Rubbish.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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MF,
I guess it is called supply and demand, I don't think they intentionally became a monopoly, probably all the others just gave up in a similar manner to all the mower shops that have shut up shop. The general public just buys the Bunnings/Aldi rubbish and when it fails just get another one/repeat. It is only the genuine equipment user who buys stuff from places like GA Spares

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Originally Posted by Mowerfreak
How did that company get a virtual monopoly on supplying mower parts in this country?
Australia used to have so many competitors who coped okay with healthy competition. Now we have far fewer companies doing the same same stuff because "we have too small a market". Rubbish.
Well, they don't really quite have a monopoly; their major competitor is US-owned Bynorm/Ariens/Stens.

It's just that they do [throughout their family's long history in the OPE parts business] and always have done, an absolutely superlative job [and believe me, I do not bestow that level of accolade lightly] of parts supply and backup information, as in regard to what bits fit what machines.


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GregB #115237 04/05/22 06:46 PM
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I have a Tilt A Cut that is giving the massive kickback. I guess it needs a weight added to the crank but I'm not sure how much is needed. I thought this was only a problem for the PT motors because of their half crank design. Anybody have any idea how much weight it might need. There is a couple of them nearby, one with a PT and one with an F/C so I might pick them up and see what they have underneath

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Hi Norm,

The Powertorque motors on edgers have a heavier flywheel and with full cranks that I've seen used in similar
situations they used a heavy cast iron v belt pulley on the crank ,so if your full crank has a light pulley then I
would add a weight to the crank that is the same weight as a Victa 18 blade plate without the blades at the most

If testing the weight first I would try ,point eight of a kg first and at most go to 1.4 kg

A Go Kart centrifugal clutch is about 20 ounces about .56 of a Kg .but on the Victa you would
have a crank adapter as well. so probably worth trying no lower than .8 of a kg.

0.8 of a KG should work.


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Max.

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I saw this pulley from a PT, I might grab it and weigh it just so I can see how much it weighs.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/265240701791

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I can personally vouch he's a good seller. I've picked up from him on a number of occasions.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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Hi MF,
I don't know if he fixes anything but he sure strips down a lot of stuff

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You make more per mower in parts than complete, unless the mower is a sought after model.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
GregB #115250 05/05/22 03:31 PM
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I ended up with a 940 gram weight on the bottom of the pulley but it still kicked back. I then fitted a restrictor on the decomp and problem solved, starts easily. Might even see how it goes on my edges although I find the Chuffle does a neat job

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Is the chuffle just a regular stick edger with a broom handle?

I picked up one of the old victa push edgers off the curbside collection (recognised its green handle).

Pretty sure the only reason they sold them was to test mens patience enough to buy a TAC haha

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I was given this ages ago by a neighbour.
Haven't taken a look at it. It's there a knack to adjusting the depth and avoiding the cement?

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Originally Posted by Mowerfreak
is there a knack to adjusting the depth and avoiding the cement?

Luck haha

lift the front off the ground, drop the height down and carefully guide it down. Fine for long straight runs, not for crooked or curves

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If I can get the junker going, I'll have a go. I've only got straight lines to do. Otherwise, good practise for my line trimmer skills.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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I have never tried one so I might give the TAC a go and see if they are worth the effort, now that it starts easily. Not sure if I am game enough to remove the weight off the crank, finger is still very wary of the kickback.

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GregB #115284 09/05/22 10:41 AM
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Ok I have received this pulley with the disc on it. I'm not sure if it is a factory item, wondering if anybody has any info. It is 7 inches in diameter and weighs 3KG. That is a massive amount of weight to have swinging off the bottom of the crankshaft. Now I need to pick up a TAC with a PT fitted to see if this is factory or not. The TAC's with PT fitted are a real botched up machine, looking like Victa did a backyard job fitting the motor on backwards with the fuel tank out the front
This pulley with the disc on it means I was on the right track a few years ago when I was struggling with PT's on the 24 inch slashers. This is the proof I needed but I never thought of fitting this much weight.

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