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#109184 01/11/20 08:32 PM
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Just saw this on gumtree

Not original (especially considering the superstart sticker on a PT), but looks like a quite well done and professional (aside from flywheel guard).

If it is original, I have never seen one shaped like it, but it looks strangely symmetrical - was it something from the vortex model?

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/bli...e-2-stroke-lawn-mower-catcher/1260411012

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Tyler #109188 02/11/20 02:52 AM
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Wow Tyler that is a strange model. Forgetting the unusual top with no vents for cooling, I have never seen a blue Pace steel deck, only the thumb latch high arch alloy base.
That must have been the successor.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
Tyler #109193 02/11/20 10:04 AM
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G'day Tyler and Mf

I have seen a few of these Pace mowers before.

https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/37373/old-victa-550-questions.html

Cheers
Max

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Hi MF, have seen a few of these; most with the FC and corvette/sabre type cover. Occasionally, a PT with commando cover. But never like this

Max, do you reckon its the same mower years later?

Tyler #109196 02/11/20 06:10 PM
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Hi Tyler and Maxwestern,

I like the SPFC Corvette style top and it would lift the appearance of the Pace steel deck mower which was obviously aimed as a lower to medium tier mower as was it's predecessor with the alloy thumb latch base with nylon bearing wheels and 160 cup start motor.
I know which I'd prefer though.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
Tyler #109208 03/11/20 12:07 AM
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G'day Tyler and Mf

They look like different mowers to me Tyler.


Cheers
Max

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Tyler #109223 05/11/20 03:40 PM
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I've never seen a super start label on a Powertorque before. This suggests they are from the era where SPFCs were being sold alongside PTs as they were being phased in as the standard 2 stroke motor in the 83-84 period.

Is that a puzzle MW? I fail to see any difference.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
Mowerfreak #109249 06/11/20 06:46 PM
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Hi Mf and all,

I haven't kept a lot of info on this Pace with a Power Torque ,I'm sure I've seen a few and thought I had seen an ad
but did not keep the images ,the twin grip catcher if original would also be a clue .

Originally Posted by Mowerfreak
I've never seen a super start label on a Powertorque before..

Super Start is mentioned in the 1983 Victa Catalogue in the write up on the Power Torque motor,
it just refers to the electronic ignition as you would know Mf. It definitely looks an early model Power Torque.

I just noticed the mistake Jack has on this Victa Brochure " I date this full-colour, full-range brochure to 1984-85"

"In this 1983-84 brochure" https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/70751/BROCHURE_-_Victa_1983-84_Range.html

Yes 83 -84 Brochure. Also the brochure mentions the 5 year warranty with the super start electronic ignition module.

Cheers
Max.

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Tyler #109290 09/11/20 09:43 PM
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I just noticed the mistake Jack has on this Victa Brochure " I date this full-colour, full-range brochure to 1984-85"
Hi Max
Many thanks, as always.
Have I got the topic right now?

I note my initial date was 1983-84.
I can't recall why I revised it.

Cheers
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Jack

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G'day Jack

good1 all fixed now .



Cheers
Max

Tyler #109441 19/11/20 07:51 PM
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Hi all

A Super Start sticker on a Power Torque.

I managed to get a pic of the 1983 Sabre with a Power Torque motor and it has the Super Start
sticker but obviously not the exact same Super Start sticker that the full cranks had and the Pace mower
above.

Cheers
Max.

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Tyler #109443 19/11/20 09:55 PM
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Hello maxwestern and all,
both these labels signify the passing of the baton from the side pull full crank to the newly introduced Powertorque engine which had electronic ignition standard unlike the outgoing full crank.
They were being sold in an overlapping fashion where there was a period they were both available on new models at the same time. Whether the full cranks were still actually being made or inventory of existing full cranks were being sold is unknown.
The use of SS on various labels for the PT likely indicates the exact period they were sold at the same time.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
Tyler #109448 20/11/20 10:57 PM
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Hi Mf + all

I'm not sure how many of the 83 Power Torque mowers had the SS mentioned on a sticker ,I think the
1983 Vortex had SS on the sticker too , The 1983 Super Start module for the Power Torque is a bit on the large side.



Cheers
Max.

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Tyler #109449 21/11/20 03:24 AM
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Can anyone give a basic rundown on the differences in how the electronic ignition module functions over the condenser and points? All I know is there's a lobe toward the top of the crank shaft that operates the points.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
Tyler #109451 21/11/20 06:35 AM
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MF,
it is all to do with the clever electronics in the module. As you know the cam lobe,points and condenser become obsolete once you fit a module. Electronics can do amazing things as we are well aware of in our everyday life these days, just think of what your phone can do and don't ask me to explain how they work either. Then you can have Alexa on your phone to do a million things, hard to work out where we are heading with all this artificial intelligence so your little module on the mower is really in the lower end of the scale of smart things now

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