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Thanks for that Grannic. The HD-8 Illustrated Parts List, in particular, is a considerably better copy than I have seen before, and should be useful to users, collectors and restorers. You have collected more HD-8 information than I have ever seen before, into one place. Well done.
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Thanks Grumpy, It's a pleasure to provide the information that others have been so willing and freely giving to me. Although I have no authority to print their personal names, I do however show my gratitude and to give thanks to Greenfield and Honda for information supplied. Over the next 4 months I plan to restore my HD8 as close as I can to as original sale condition. During the time of restoring the HD8 I will investigate and conclude my findings as to the steps Greenfield has taken since 1966, to the current Greenfield today. Any ideas, information, personal findings or photos people have on the HD8, I would love to read it. At this stage all I know is Greenfield first released a single belt drive in 1966 and the blades were engaged differently to the HD8. The first HD8 1967 (RED) had a straight steering arm, no grease nipples for the front axel, bolt in engine mount and was called a Greenfield Honda. 1968 saw a slight bend to both ends of the steering arm, grease nipples added to the front ends of the axel, the engine mount was welded in and formed part of the chassis and was now called the Greenfield Tractor HD8. 1969 saw the Greenfield HD8 Swift. Of course this is not to say some variations were made along the way and there is 2 types of models in the one year. At this point, in my findings, there will be no hard and fast rules in original restoration colours, although before I paint, I would like to be more comfortable with that idea. Cheers for now.
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Considering restoring Greenfield HD-8 ride on mower. Have Frame & G65 Honda motor but no clutch pulley. Does anyone know how to obtain pulley & clutch?
I really appreciate the manuals loaded on this site.
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Evening geenhorn,
Always good to hear from fellow Greenies!
I'm assuming you need the pulley/clutch arrangement that goes on the engine PTO. The first question is, is your machine a 'red' or a 'yellow'? The first Greenies were red in colour and had a single belt from the engine. The next generation were yellow and had two belts (drive belt and a cutter belt) at the engine.
Perhaps some photos of the proposed project in order to better understand what you need.
Cheers,
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Novice is the word on using this site. Reply to prd.
Both Red and Yellow. I thought they were the same but obviously not. My mate has the red one and I am about to remove drive belt of yellow for him. Min is yellow that I am considering restoring. My mates red on still runs but minus belt from motor to cutter housing. How can we obtain belt for red one?
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hi geenhorn welcome,how about some pics we love pics of old greenfield's
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I took some pics of 3 different greenfields I am working on but I cant work out how to get them into my thread.
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Morning all, In this thread there is a copy of the cat-alogue (  re: the 'other' thread) for the 'red'. It gives that the belt is a B60 (the poor copy makes it look like an 'H' but it's a 'B'. This is confirmed by a belt bought for one of mine which was measured from the old one. There has been a bit of discussion about the belt material best suited for applications like this where the belt does a fair bit of twisting and turning. I'm no expert but I believe Kevlar belts are the go. Belt can be sourced from a bearing shop or the like. Hope this helps, Cheers,
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geenhorn you click on the fifth icon the one with the blue arrow then follow the steps cheer's
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I tried loading 2 photos so I hope they are on this message
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On my photos there is my working greenfield and I think I found its manual on this site. I am sure I know the illustrator who drew the exploded view of this tractor in the manual. (exploded view using a perspective grid where all other illustrations follow the photos laid out on white sheets) I once did the exploded views of greenfield xl 5hp scooter type design such a long time ago but I cant find the book.
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Morning all,
Well, well, well, what have we here?
That 'Red' is interesting. Can we have more photos of this one please. Firstly it's a straight rail machine but the real interest is in that it has the RHS front axle pivot which I think is the earliest type of axle and has the steel steering arm which is also the earliest type. But the machine has the one piece rear drive cover (the cowl that the seat is on) which is the later design and the bonnet is hinged above the upper deck arm pivot point which is also a later model thing.
Noticed too the pulley/clutch assembly on the seat. Can we have detail photos of that too? gml and I have worked out that the earliest machines had a slightly different setup here too. Also has the early hand brake setup.
Very interesting machine. Is that a G65 engine? If so, I'm suggesting we are looking at one of the very first G65 machines.
Definitely more photos please.!!!
I'm also mildly curious about the tractor 8 in the first photo as I've not seen that cowl style before (without the white headlight insert or that decal style).
Also, this thing about your time as a technical illustrator.....?
Cheers,
PS and NB!: given that this is a straight rail machine and an early bird my call about the belt size may well be wrong!!
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The red one lives 20 klms from me and I dont own it but I can get more photos. Theo Reinhold designed this mover after he was ousted from the Rover Mower Company. I used to see him every working day for a couple of years and he told me many stories about building this model. He has passed on now so all this information is limited to those he told the stories to. The parts were made by company in Springwood Brisbane Queensland and he put them together virtually hand built awaiting the motor before the sale. My memory has to go back 36 years but anything I can find I will let you know.
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![[Linked Image]](https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/uploads/usergals/2017/04/full-11351-34058-img_2013.jpg) Here is a side view of Big Red. I will keep working on getting more photos
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Morning geenhorn,
Thanks for the extra photos. I can't make out the engine size on the engine data plate but the third photo shows very well the way the steering wheel sits high which leaves little doubt it is a very early g65 machine. Rare and worth hanging onto.
And for certain my call about the belt size is going to be wrong as it was based on a dropped engine machine. Not sure how to establish the correct belt size. To date I've not seen a parts list for these very early machines.
I'm (and I'm sure others) very much interested in any information printed or anecdotal from your time at Greenfield and with Theo. Anything and everything you wish to share. Your the first person here to have spent time with the man. Would love to hear about it please.
Cheers,
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![[Linked Image]](https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/uploads/usergals/2017/04/full-11351-34067-img_2017.jpg) Ok this is a barnfind. Will I bring it home or leave it in the barn? Sorry photo rotated but it is upright in my computer, any sugestions on how to fix. Can anyone tell me what year it is?
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I have been studying this manual. Is great to have a bit of history to work with. I actually need the later manual with double belt engine pulley but almost the same shape tractor. Can anyone advise me where I can get the later model manual and what it is called?
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