OutdoorKing Repair Forum Forums Restoring, Customising and Modifying Other Walk-Behind Rotary Mowers Turner Model 2A With Villiers 7F Automatic Engine

Thank you for the information Jack, I will check the adjustments. All the black marks on the base should come off, seems to be a mix of dirt and oil. I think I will leave the base as is but the handle bars will get a touch up. I have a new "Turner Automatic" decal coming which will be fitted to another repainted cowl so as to preserve all the original decals. I will post a pic when it is all done.

Jack, I have finally managed to get a good clear picture of the "Turner Industries" badge if I post it up are you able to remove all the dud pics from my posts ?

Paul

Hello Paul,

That's good news that the base will come up so well.

I have removed the blurred photo and put in the clear one (as you requested).
That badge is really noteworthy as it does not appear to have been
fitted to all machines - including the first four strokes(?).

Also, check out the Carter chassis, Paul [link below].
I think they are identical.



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Is there a Turner in your home?
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JACK

Hi Jack,

First the good news, I have the idle speed down to what I think is about right. The instructions state to gently turn the spindle in a anti clockwise direction and tighten the throttle arm clamp, did this and still had full revs. Deafening ! Tried again and this time put some effort in and the spindle went further, from about 12 o'clock to 11 o'clock position. This bought the revs down to an almost idle which may be right for this model.

I would say that the Turner chassis is from the reworked Carter mould. I notice on the rear platform of mine that there is mould mark which I think blanks out the 18" cut lettering that is present on the Carter. The Made in Australia is left but the Automatic lettering is covered up by the step treads. I guess they did away with the Automatic wording as a manual model was also available? The 18" cut lettering as this was already incorporated as part of the Turner logo on the front.

Now that my base is a lot cleaner I will post a pic of the rear deck showing this.

Hi Paul

AS my favourite Shakespearean character, Shylock, said ... "Oh Great News!"
These 7Fs are really nice little engines, so I am pleased the idle has been sorted.

That's valuable information on the Turner and Carter bases.

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JACK

Hi Jack,

Here is a photo of the base with what looks like a mould revision as to where the "18" Cut" lettering use to be on the Carter chassis






My base cleaned up pretty good so I won't be repainting it



All the best

Paul

Hello Paul

I must admit, I believe you made the right decision for a sensitive restoration.
We now have Al's beautiful fully restored machine as a record; and now your part-
restored machine. It doesn't get any better than this in vintage mower history!

Paul, your observation here is also significant.
The Turner engineers referred to this base as 'the Carter Base'.
This confirms the link between the first Turners and the Carter.
I wonder what 'arrangement' James Kirby and Rene Turner made to make this happen?

All very significant.
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JACK

i also wanted to buy this too dear for me and i had no room though! you can probably to a better job paul, also it takes ages for stuff to happen around my joint! that villager is nice too! does it have the hubcaps you got off me on it?