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NormK #119320 12/02/24 08:08 PM
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Yes Max,
I have had all those or variations of those, they must catch some out or they wouldn't keep trying

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NormK #119321 12/02/24 09:27 PM
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Hi Norm,

Yes I thought a Australia may be at the top with scammed victims but the USA with an astounding 466,501 online scams in 2022, the U.S. leads the world as the country with the most scam victims per year.28 Nov 2023

I just watched The Beekeeper ,some mindless violence towards fictional scammers. lol


Cheers
Max,

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NormK #119322 13/02/24 11:37 AM
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Hi Max,
Obviously picking up $3bn is worth scamming for

NormK #119323 13/02/24 12:46 PM
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G'day Norm,

Yes the Government is asleep , they need to do more to stop the scammers.

https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Co...leep-At-The-Whee-At-The-ATO/td-p/2291901


I know people who never answer their phone if they don't recognize the number ,there must be a lot of people
like that now. Not that this would help much if a scammer has spoofed the phone number which is easily done,
I've had fake ID messages sent to my phone ,pretending to be someone you know.

I guess a lot of the time people aren't expecting people to blatantly lie to them because that's not what they would do to other people.

Cheers
Max.

NormK #119324 13/02/24 01:20 PM
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Yes Max,
It is a never ending cycle with these scammers and the problem with not answering the phone with no caller id is that quite a few places like hospitals come up with that and I know of a person who was trying to be contacted by a hospital and she kept ignoring it. When she did answer it one day they told her they had been trying to contact her for weeks as they needed to discuss something. You are between a rock and a hard place

NormK #119339 20/02/24 08:59 PM
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I've heard of that happening too Norm ,Hospitals using a private number so people don't answer the phone.

It's a bit of a problem all the scammers these days, your not even meant to say yes or no on a phone call these days
in case a scammer records your voice and uses that .

When I checked my Gumtree account today a lot of the scammers have been blocked,it looks like Gumtree
has finally done something.

Cheers
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NormK #119342 23/02/24 11:29 AM
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Hi Max,
that is good to hear at least they are trying. My grandaughter was enquiring about a car listed on Car Sales yesterday, got an email this morning to say to contact this email address and nothing else. Red flags came straight up and an hour later she got a notification from Car Sales that this was a scam listing.

NormK #119344 23/02/24 06:35 PM
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Hi Norm,

It's the first time Gumtree have blocked scammers in 14 years of scammers messaging me.

I read somewhere that Fake sellers account for around 70% of used car sales scams.

These days you shouldn't list your number plate number and you need to blur the number plate in images when selling
a vehicle online because of people who clone the rego number with 3D printers and then use your plate number to commit crimes.

I sold an unregistered car on car sales in 2009 and put some old number plates on the car
just to drive the car to the end of my street to take the images, then I blurred the number plate numbers
before uploading the images to car sales but they wouldn't allow the images and the advert until I showed
the number plates in the images so I had to upload the original images showing the plates that weren't even
from the car I was selling ,then they allowed the ad, funny how now it's the opposite and they don't show the plates.


The government is meant to be stopping scammers this year.

Cheers
Max.

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NormK #119346 23/02/24 07:23 PM
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Hi Max,
things have moved a long way since 2009, nobody would have thought about 3D printing number plates or even 3D printing anything. Scamming has moved a long way since 2009 as well

NormK #119349 24/02/24 12:02 PM
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G'day Norm,

It's interesting how it's all changed Norm.

I remember in the mid nineties Swinburne in Hawthorn had 3D printers and in 2009 Windows 7 was new.

In 2013 anyone could download the plans for a 3D printed gun.

Pre 2009 criminals would clone all id numbers on stolen vehicles and sell the vehicle and the owner wouldn't
find out that they had a stolen vehicle until the next registration payment.There would be 2 cars on the road
with the same numbers and plates.

Also remember seeing car plates printed on paper and put behind a perspex number plate holder.

20 years ago i remember a company started making novelty plates and would sell them at swap meets, there
has always been someone who can make number plates.

I had people wanting to pay by check for second hand goods back in the nineties instead of cash ,I would
never take a check as you never knew if it would clear ,just like when people wanted to transfer money to
buy an item , I wouldn't be giving them or sending the item until the money had cleared.

How Is Digital Fraud Becoming More Sophisticated As Technology Advances? link below.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/...-as-technology-advances/?sh=57349cb94e84

I don't know why people ever bothered with user passwords on computers when you turn them on because of how
easily they were circumvented, then they bring out secure boot processors to fix the problem but they can still be
exploited.

https://www.csoonline.com/article/5...nd-modern-uefi-security-protections.html

Cheers
Max.

NormK #119355 26/02/24 10:35 PM
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Hi all

I've recently heard a group of 3 Chinese nationals have been arrested in Sydney after being responsible
for eighty million scam text messages , they were sending out the toll and parcel scam messages among others
to millions of Australians .

I think this explains why the gumtree scammers got blocked ,police say as soon as one site closes down another operation springs up
and they know of similar operations that are already up and running.

Apparently these scammers had 3 sim boxes with 192 sim cards sending out scam messages 24 - 7.

Possibly less phone message scams at the moment .They say don't trust any text messages from a business as they
don't generally contact you that way and if someone rings from a business you're meant to hang up and google
the business name to get their phone number and call them back..I guess most people these days don't
trust anyone and don't answer calls from private or unknown numbers.

Cheers
Max.

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NormK #119356 27/02/24 09:01 AM
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It is hard Max because I had a hospital ring me a couple of days ago with no caller ID. I wasn't going to answer it but I did and I was lucky I did answer it. Problem is you never know.

NormK #119359 27/02/24 08:46 PM
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Hi Norm,

Yes I don't see the problem answering private number calls ,I've had a few when selling on Gumtree and just ask
them for their number so you can message details back.

If you get a time waster on a private number I just hang up .

The thing is there are people who won't answer a call from a private number ,I've even seen a few ads on Gumtree
and the sellers say that private numbers won't be answered but as you say they could miss a call from a Doctor or
a Hospital.

Another phone scam is when someone rings your phone so it rings once and hangs up before you answer
, then if you ring back it's a high priced number that you receive an excessive bill for.

I saw a show the other day where scammers in India were making $20,000 a day ,all from people who weren't
very tech savvy but the governments have now arrested them so it looks like it's not a good time for scammers ,I just
don't understand why the governments have let them get away with it for so long,

Cheers
Max.

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