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Joined: Oct 2020
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Hi Everyone at ODK,
I am looking to purchase a used Powertorque ignition coil with attached module, in working order. I am happy to pay up to $30 for one, and will cover reasonable postage to Beecroft, Sydney.

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Hi two stroker,
you've just exposed a flaw with the later coil with inbuilt module. As the module is what usually fails, and not the coils on Powertorque engines, having it like that forces you to replace the lot instead of the cheaper and readily available separate module.
Must have been designed to simplify production.
One disadvantage of the later Chinese made engine castings over the Australian ones.
I wonder if there's a way to bypass the dead module and and fit a different one?


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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Hi Mowerfreak,
In relation to the ignition units that contain the module and coil as a single unit, rather than the earlier two piece setup, I was wondering exactly the same thing.
Could I pull the plastic covering off and affix a new module to the wiring of the coil?
It would be theoretically possible, but depending on how it’s been constructed will determine the feasibility in a practical sense.
As you say, the change was most likely economic in nature. I much prefer the setup with the coil and module wired separately. So much easier to deal with.

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G-day twostroker.

There is an upside to the combined setup. It delivers a more powerful spark which leads to more consistent starting I imagine.

You have nothing to lose pulling your old coil apart to see for yourself how feasible it is to graft a standalone module to it.

Otherwise, surely you can find a dead later type PT to scavenge one off, or even replace the whole engine with another one?


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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Hi twostroker and MF,
I'd check local tip shop or metal recycler for old powertorque mowers..... might get a few good parts, coils carbs.....who knows. cheers
I saw a couple of PT 40km north of me for free, pretty junky, but I'm too bust at the moment.. But they are everywhere.
speedy


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Originally Posted by speedy
I saw a couple of PT 40km north of me for free, pretty junky, but I'm too bust at the moment.. But they are everywhere.
speedy

Unfortunately people who grab them are even more prolific. Both times I found a Victa PT recently, it was only seconds before someone else stopped to grab them too.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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Thanks Guys for all the information and suggestions.
I too have noticed that ( in Sydney I refer to only) it’s becoming increasingly difficult to locate the old mowers like I used to be able to. Seems like the only way to acquire them now, and I mean the real wrecks that used to exist on the kerb, is to pay for them.
E bay/gumtree-$30-$40, so I did that and parted an old commando and another one out. Coils and module were perfect, resistance on module and coil both low, in the order of 6-7 k ohms.

The other area I would ask others of, is does anyone ever bother dealing with the surface rust that builds up on the soft iron E core? I usually sand if bad, apply the usual phosphoric acid, then black enamel. Any one else do this to help them survive? Techniques???

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Hi twostroker,

Please post photo of the ignition coil. I may have one.

CM

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Hi Carbymaster
Thanks for your interest.
Here is a photo
It’s the Powertorque coil with the module built into it- not with the coil and module being separate units, but either will be fine.
Best wishes
2 stroker

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I decided to drive home by a different route the other night and came across this.

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Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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Did you end up getting one? I'm in the same boat

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Hi Kev,
I have plenty here


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