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#106307 27/05/20 05:41 PM
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Hello does anyone know if the 18189 is the same as a 18188, but with a different motor? Can l use the 18188 manual for the 18189? Thanks

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swampyro #106310 27/05/20 07:06 PM
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Hi Swampyro,

What model numbers? Are they associated with?

All the best
Paul

swampyro #106312 27/05/20 07:44 PM
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Rover Rancher ride on, 18189. Would it be similar to the 18188, thankyou

swampyro #106331 28/05/20 11:06 AM
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Rang MTD, they are the same.... apart form Engines.

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swampyro #106337 28/05/20 07:29 PM
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G'day swampyro ,paul and all,

I also was not sure at the start what the numbers were associated with.

Rover sold out to MTD in 2010 https://outdoorpowerequipment.com/2010/02/16/mtd-products-australia-acquires-rover-mowers/819/

I thought the Rover was 15 Hp and the MTD was 14 Hp


Cheers
Max

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swampyro #106340 28/05/20 08:20 PM
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There is a chap l have been writing to at MTD, he writes to me....quote
'Hi xxxxxxx
Yes the 18188 manual is the same as the 18189. That manual will be fine.'

Then l asked about a list of old Model numbers hoping that there was some type of a list maybe somewhere, ect... he replies...

"Sorry, but there not a list like that. We even have a bit of trouble finding some of the old Rover models.

Information on old Rover is a bit limited. "

Several months earlier l rang to them asking about a different manual for an old Rover Rideon, the young fellow said
that when the takeover happened alot of the old manuals were 'discarded' and there is no back up left of the ones deleted.

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swampyro #106341 28/05/20 08:54 PM
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Hello swampyro, Paul and Max

I can give a bit of insight into Rover Model identification.
It has remained largely consistent.

The first two numbers were the chassis model.
The last digits always designated the engine.
A number or numbers were inserted between these two groups
when changes were made to the original design series.

Example.
The great 3210 first appeared in the 1960s. This was a Model 32.
chassis coupled to a 10 Series 4hp Briggs.

Later a 13 series [5hp]engine was added: this was the 3213.

By the late 1970s the chassis was redesigned with a high arch.
A number [1] was added in-between the two groups.

Thus the new designation for the 5 hp became the 32113.
When the 13 series gained industrial/commercials the engine
number had to be changed. Thus we had the 32123.

Under successive owners, Rover seem to have somewhat retained the
original Rover Mowers model identifiers. First numbers deal with chassis
and changes to it. Last numbers are allocated to the mated engine used.

The last numbers are now arbitrary [factory allocated]. They may designate
ancillary changes [starting], hp changes, or engine make changes.

It is a good system.

Cheers
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Jack

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swampyro #106347 29/05/20 01:54 AM
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Thanks Jack for this info on How to decode your Rover Mower by the model numbers.

I had wondered how you could tell if your Rover mower had the cast iron bore (industrial motor) by the number code.



cheers2
Max.

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swampyro #106348 29/05/20 06:38 AM
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Swampypro, What model were you chasing?

Rover were hopeless with records, after being sold in the 90's then again to mtd in the 00's, then a couple of factory site changes, so much was lost. kind of surprising as according to their brochures from the 70's it was computerized back then!

but it happens so often, greenfield are the same way, their excuse was a factory fire..

Worst part with Rover is I have never even heard of anyone other then Theo Reinhold from the early days. I would love to know more of the history of the brand but no one seems to know anything...

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swampyro #106349 29/05/20 12:06 PM
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Nath, you're not wrong there. Rover just seem to have "existed" there at all times.


I don't collect mowers. I just require Multiple Mowing Solutions™.
nath #106350 29/05/20 01:18 PM
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Wow, thanks for the great replies all, l have an attachment of the parts book, but hunting for equivalent owners manual... 52144
another one ot follow later...

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swampyro #106351 29/05/20 01:24 PM
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Then there is the 01755, l have the parts book....

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swampyro #106352 29/05/20 01:30 PM
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Hubby drives me lovingly crazy,,, can you find this, can you find that, while l hear bang bang swear swear, bang bang...

So this is the last one for now l think... It the Rancher 2 model 110055 see top left corner...

All advise is gratefully accepted... Thank you

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CyberJack #106353 29/05/20 03:48 PM
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Thanks Jack, can l send your description to a friend please...

swampyro #106357 29/05/20 07:06 PM
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Hello swampyro,
Sure, send away.

Cheers
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Jack

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