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Yer it looks rugged............
It's got another 2 weeks to go as I want the items completely rust free , nearly ready for painting.....
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When I did my engine cowl and went to clean it, rust would start appearing before your eyes as it was drying. I didn't know what to do about it so just painted it straight away as soon as it dried. It doesn't seen to have emerged anywhere so far.


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G'day all,

I do a bit of hand tool and parts refinishing, utilising a Molasses de-rusting bath, and a traditional 'rust blacking' process.
This involves deliberately forming a uniform coat of red rust, Fe2O3, on the surface, and then converting it to 'black rust', aka magnetite, Fe3O4.

There are a couple of simple techniques to 'passivate' a reactive steel surface, after it comes out of any de-rusting bath.

The simplest is to treat the surface with boiling water - but you must use high purity water.
Distilled or demineralised water is best, followed by rainwater. Tap water just doesn't cut it here; bore water even less so.

Pouring the water over the surface will work OK, if it's done straight away. The residual heat will ensure that the workpiece dries off quickly, too.

A related technique involves a 'steam cabinet' - tap water is fine to use in this one, as the workpiece never contacts the liquid water.

As I often work with longish, skinny workpieces, I've built a 'steam pipe apparatus' based on an old leccy frying pan, and some PVC DWV pipe and fittings. Pic of this setup attached; also a couple of refinished tools I've done.
Rust blacked, then given a couple of coats of Boiled Linseed Oil - this is a good old-time anti-rust coating, and it doesn't stink fishily... laugh

For an average thickness workpiece, 10-15min of steaming is all that is needed.
Some of the 'black rust' is not bound to the metal, so this is removed in a process termed 'carding', using a soft wire brush or degreased steel wool.

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I have a hand held trigger steam cleaner that I use distilled water in. Is that useful?


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G'day MF,
Originally Posted by Mowerfreak
I have a hand held trigger steam cleaner that I use distilled water in. Is that useful?
If you mean one of those 'Steam Genius' type jiggers, then no. I have one of those here. Won't produce sufficient steam, or for long enough.

Edit: You'd need to use something like a pro type wallpaper steamer unit, as a steam generator. Something like the Andersen oil-fired industrial steam cleaner I used to have would ace the job, but be serious overkill! grin

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Hi Gadge,

with this pastime I spend minimal money, so there's two chances of obtaining one -non and Buckley's.
It sounds like that is what I have. It cost me $20 at Aldi down from thirty something ninety nine.

I bet some dreamer on SleazeBay is attempting to sell one for $120.


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G'day MF,

Yeah, I'm a dyed-in-the-wool scrounger, who does stuff on a minimal budget, too. grin

For bigger items like deflectors, it would be quite easy to set up a 'steaming chamber'.

Made from say a 20-60L steel drum with a clip-on lid, or just a loose cover of plywood or sheetmetal, and some sort of arrangement to keep the parts out of the water. Sit it on a decent [double ring or better] LPG ring burner, add a half bucket or so of water, and away you go.

The drum would need to be thoroughly degreased though, if it had contained oil or grease of any kind.


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I took it out of bath yesterday, did a good job.
Rubbed down, dried it and painted..
speedy

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I was tempted to leave the motor alone as it was running so well. Lucky I took head and barrel off as top ring was stuck in with carbon. I released it and decoke . It will be good as I will keep this mower for myself.....
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Got to be patient, watch the paint dry and harden... I don't want to end up with scratches all over.
I used Boston Black Zinc for cowl and black parts and underneath. Motor is almost ready. Looks like it had new rings, good bore , no lip.
The cream plastic cover had sun degredation, it was powering, but not inside. I water blaster some stuff of and snaded and spayed some white paint on to fix it.... probably last longer than me...
cheers
speedy

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Speedy, this looks like it's going to come up a treat.


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Yes hopefully,
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It's coming along ok.
speedy

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I'd tend to agree! Looking good.


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I screwed the cowl phillips head bolts in with my drill and screwed them past the stops and busted the three long ones. You gotta make a few stuff ups......
I'll fix it with long bolts and washers ..........
The lawn is growing and it will do me.....
cheers
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Nice job speedo!! Amazing what tlc can achieve. You're a can do man!

I particularly like the matt black handles.


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It's got my seal of approval. The colours are great.


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Mowed my front lawn and the neighbours yard today.......
42 years young... it ran well, plenty of compression and power....

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Looks and sounds as good as the weather you've got there. Cheers for the vid.


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Sporty sound there speedmond!!
A shame you don't have some longer grass to put it through it's Paces. wink

So how many does that make in the mower fleet now?

When can we see a clip of the Star Wars mower?

congrats in your maiden YouTube clip.


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