Nothing wrong with those mowers, up there with the Powertorques, pull start getting a little harder to get compared to the Powertorques, motor is typical tough Victa, easy rebuilder and the piece de resistance, todays Victa catcher still fits, and there is millions of those out there. I would have one of these any day over a brand new Briggs, will still be going long after the Briggs is sent to the scrap