cheers grumpy , deejay tried to help too but he's an S,B type of guy wink . dont think i should tell you this but gave the 'ol spares one a touch up of the blades gently with a sharp file . the difference it made was amazing !! cant wiat to get the good one sharpened properly now . And finaly found a new drive belt fot the one you see here but hadto make a new spacer for the small pulley ( like a volkswagen) spacer between to make the belt ride high or lower in the groove . wow they are touchy too adjustment ! ever seen one or would a few pic's help ? cheers Dave