Thanks for warm welcome Deejay. Wii post pics later. For time being have listed my both mower details under my signature. As for paying for manual. I don't mind but I have never paid anything on line (eg credit card) and am not keen to start now given that i suffered a huige fraud some years back and still worried due to the horror stories I keep hearing. Some other way to pay for the sub cost?

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My Mowers:
SB Model 45: 17",3hp, Model No:21339, B&S Model 80202, type 1735-01, Code 82111901
SB Model Diplomat 430: 17", 3hp Model No:1414, B&S Model 80202, type 0880-01, Code 79110101