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Hi Norm,

Sorry to hear that. Have you received and tried the two floats I sent to you. I would like to buy off from you one of the troubled carby that consistently pissing off fuel. Plus I will pay for the postage. At least I have something to work on and investigate.

Joel


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Problem is Jeff when they piss out, by the time people notice it has also flooded the crank and that then takes a long time to get the crank clear again. And no the car trip hasn't helped the deck is covered in fuel, I will sort it out tomorrow. This mower has worked fine for a few months but these needles are so unpredictable. Yes I agree if you get an old needle that works they are often good

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I was discussing this issue with a mate today, and we (admittedly mostly he) came up with a way that might fix this issue.

He was saying how he has used a very thin grit valve grinding paste (or reel mower reel lapping compound around 220 is the lightest apparently) to take the smallest thousands of an inch off a briggs where the needle had rusted and left a ridge that caused a new needle to stick.

We concluded that (perhaps) a small bit of lapping paste on a cotton bud (q-tip, cotton ear bud, cotton swab, whatever you want to call it) put in the lm needle hole an turned, would take that thousands of an inch off the plastic (or smooth rough plastic) that binds the needle.

It may even pay to put the other end in a variable speed drill and 'lap' it for a few seconds at 100-300 rpm.

It would even further smooth the brass seat to prevent the Viton tip from binding if that is part of the issue

I don't have a binding one on hand right now, but will test when I inevitably do.

Sorry if this has been discussed before, I don't recall seeing anything

Happy New Year

Regards
Tyler

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Hi Tyler, simple answer is no needle is too short so you can't hang onto it to rotate it

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Hi all
Haven't read all the posts on this thread so not sure if it has been discussed. I have seen different coloured float needles for the Victa's and was wondering why this is so ?

Cheers
wce

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I think it's a combination of different aftermarket makers and the different eras Victa made them.
Don't forget the plastic carburettors were made for 40 years.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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The only needle to fit is the viton tipped ones, I can not imagine the number of these mowers that I pick up that won't start, put in a viton tip needle and they fire straight up, probably 90% the rest usually straight fueled and a viton tip won't fix those

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Norm, what I mean is put the valve lapping paste in where the needle normally goes and lap it with a cotton ear bud, not the needle itself. That might increase the size of the hole and prevent sticking

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Hi Tyler, I did try that idea a few years ago trying to get the plastic needles to work but I don't think it made the slightest improvement

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