OutdoorKing Repair Forum Forums Repairs and Maintenance Questions on Chainsaws and Concrete Cutters Electric Chainsaws Chainsaw Oil Bottle Leaking from Filter (Hose deteriorated)

Years ago, we purchased a Performance Garden Products BSC 1700 Electric Chainsaw GGP Italy SPA, from a shop called Mitre 10, which I�ve recently found out that Stiga is the manufacturer of this item. The Chainsaw hasn�t been used very often, but always kept it in excellent condition, and it's been a great product.
A little while ago, I noticed Oil was leaking from the base of the Chainsaw cover. I've now taken out the eight screws that hold the outer case on, and I�ve found that the Oil Hose has deteriorated and has broken in several pieces. The Filter inside the Oil Bottle appears to have been installed at the time of manufacture, and as you would know, is attached through the hole in the bottle to the outer tube. A suggestion was made that instead of purchasing a new Oil Bottle with Filter and Hose, that maybe a Generic Filter/Hose could be fitted. My question is how would you fit an internal Filter to this bottle, along with the hose and enable a leakproof fit ? I have photos and I'll work out how to attach them to this forum. I would sincerely appreciate your reply. Many thanks.

Sherrie, I know this model but if the hose passes the tank hole only then is a fiction fit meaning the hose is slightly larger than the hole itself. Many of the hand held gas trimmers I repair this how they do the fuel lines. Over time these fail either as you had them to do or shrink, harden, and then leak.

Is Stiga the same mob (haha mob -Italy) that made the Mculloch 484 chainsaw I used to have? It too was made in Italy and I heard somewhere it was another company, not Mculloch.

Hi Sherrie, I don't know the design or model but if it is just the hose and filter that you need to replace then as with the petrol tank filters/hose they are probably done the same way. You will probably have to go to a mower shop to get the correct size hose. My thoughts then is to feed the hose in from the outside then get a wire hook in through the filler hole and pull the hose back out, fit the filter then pull the hose back out to where it should sit in the bottom of the tank

Actually is a lot easier once you have the correct length of line is to install from inside the tank. You either install the filter on the line first or wait you know you the correct amount in the tank and fish it out and then put the filter on.

Norm I replace a lot these type of lines here. Enough in fact that I buy the lines in 50 foot rolls. I do however prefer the Nitrile rubber line over the Tygon F4040 plasticize lines and it whenever I can. Some customers and techs alike spend a lot of time trying the push in the lines. I just relined two Weedeater string trimmers that the fly by night tech spent over an hour trying to get them in and I did it in less 5 minutes including getting the tools and line out of the shop. His jaw hit the floor.

He said it was the $15 he spent learning the trick.

Hi AVB, not knowing the machine I assume it doesn't have the grommet, it only has a small hole for the hose to go through and being the oil tank on an electric chain saw I would guess the tank will be very small. It is one of those things I would need to have in my hand to work out a fix.

Hopefully I'll be able to load these photos, this time: No luck, I've tried about 5 times since yesterday. The Photos are approx 93.2KB (quite small in size), they are on my Desktop, I've used Attachment Manager (drag and drop) as I received the following error message when I chose - 'Select a File to Attach' Message reads: We encountered a problem. The reason reported was: Files can be no larger than 0 Bytes. As previously mentioned all photos are on my Desktop, and I know how to locate them and insert them into other systems or programs. Forgot to mention when using Drag and Drop, I'm getting this message: File is too big (0.09 MB). Max size per file is 0 MB. Not sure what to do now.

Hi NormK, Motorfreak and ABV, I've been just now able to post the photos (only 3 were allowed) within 'Gallery'. Hopefully this will give a good indication as to what has happened and how the Filter/Hose was originally installed. Hey, I've read all your replies and it's amazing to find such wonderful people who are willing to help. Kindest regards, Sherrie

Hi AVB, I've been able to post the photos within 'Gallery', still can't work out why I couldn't within this forum.. Hopefully this will give a good indication as to what has happened and how the Filter/Hose was originally installed. Many thanks, Sherrie

Hi NormK, as you'll see I've been able to post photos in the Gallery, not that they should be in a 'Gallery', but for some reason wasn't able to get them posted within this Forum. Kind regards, Sherri

Hi Mowerfreak, remembering �the miracle of the internet� I�ve checked the email address for the contact for our Electric Chain Saw and it�s GGP (Global Garden Products). Their Website states: Founded in 2000, four established European lawn mower businesses merged: Stiga, Alpina, Mountfield and Castelgarden. Their press releases are interesting reading, about take-overs, and other info, but no mention of McCulloch on their site.
Mowerfreak, Curiosity (equals learning). I�ve tried to minimise the information on McCulloch Motors Corporation, the history is very interesting. McCulloch, has done their share of miles with �take-overs� regarding their operations and the Brand Name. It appears that McCulloch is still manufactured in America. McCulloch has been owned by: Husqvarna, Black and Decker, and at some stage Electrolux acquired Husqvarna. At another stage (1984) the McCulloch Corporations operations, were sold to a group of McCulloch managers, and private investors. March 2003 MTD Products Inc signed a distribution and licensing agreement with Jenn Feng, where MTD would exclusively produce McCulloch products in North America. March 2008, Husqvarna acquired Jenn Feng outdoor products division, gaining access to the McCulloch brand in the North American market. McCulloch is since a brand within the Husqvarna Group. Mowerfreak, isn�t it am amazing world, and I�m sure that more Members of this Forum would have a lot more information, but this still is interesting. Kind regard Sherrie

Hi Sherrie bit hard to see but I assume the existing hose still attached to the bottle is just pushed through the plastic and the filter was on the inside. If this is the case I would try as I said earlier, push the new hose through and get it out through the top/filler neck, fit the filter and pull the hose back out

Hi NormK,

Thanks for your reply. The existing hose has broken in several pieces, and neither the filter nor hose is attached to the bottle. The hose deteriorated, and that caused the filter to then become dislodged. Looking at the first photo, you'll see the Filter sitting on the bench, and then you'll see the hose that has broken due to deterioration. Kind regards, Sherrie

That what I was thinking typical Tygon hose failure here and it is a fiction fit. Most small engine supply places should a supply of different size lines. Just depends on the size if you can get it in Nitrile rubber instead of that plasticize line. It also depend of the size of the nipples of the filter and the oil pump as to if you can up the size a tad and resize the through hole in the tank but you do want a snug fit.

Basically you cut a taper on the line thread some tag wire through the taper and twist tie it. With this assemble you feed the wire though the fill hole and out the line hole. Then you simple pull the line though to desired position. Sometimes you may need use pliers to get a hold on the taper as it exits the hole as you can pull the hold out of the line if the fit is a little over snug.

Hello AVB

Thanks for your reply, I'll check out the sizing of the tube, but I'm sorry, but I don't know what 'cut a taper' means. The photo you have supplied, I can see the wire that has a loop and below that is something that is yellow. I'm not understanding this. What happens with the yellow substance ? Sorry... not getting this, at this stage.

Sherrie, the yellow substance you see is a close up view of the end of a new section of hose (in this case tygon) AVB has cut into a tapered shape (pointy) . That wire is inserted through the oil filler hole and threaded through the small port that the old hose came out of with the stiff section of wire attached as shown in picture. Before doing all this, you fit the other end of this replacement cut to size hose over the internal tank filter nipple you pulled the deteriorated hose off of. Once you have successfully threaded the wire through the bottom port of the tank, you gingerly pull the new hose through, until the filter reaches the bottom port. You then gingerly pull the nipple section of the filter through the port until it stops and is self positioned. Needle nose pliers will assist in the last stages, but I advise you to cover the jaws with a layer of rag, to avoid the splined metal of the pliers from doing damage to the new hose. Phew! hope this helps you to conceptualise it!

Hi Mowerfreak, the concept is clearer, and 'Phew!', I can appreciate the time you have taken to describe the process. I'll re-read (carefully) your information and make sure I've got it correct. Thanks again for your support. Catch up later. Kindest regards, Sherrie

Update, called into a local Mower Store, and was told that the size wasn't normal, and they didn�t have a correct size Tube to fit the Chainsaw Oil Bottle. Thinking a little outside of the square, we went to a local Motor Bike Sales and Repair Shop. The gentleman in the workshop, was amazing. He looked at the Oil Bottle, took it away, and returned with a piece of blue tube, he then pulled the old tube out of the Filter, replaced it with the blue tube and he then continued fitting the Filter inside the Oil Bottle, and pulling the tubing out of the little hole. I just couldn't believe it, and he said to me, I've got everything at home to fix my Grass Trimmer. He was so nice. Arranging payment for his service and the tubing, he shook his head and said: �there�s no charge, I don�t want anything�. Isn�t that amazing service. I�ve attached a photo, in the Gallery showing the installed Tube within the Oil Bottle, alone with another photo which relates to where the Oil Tube enters and exits under a white plastic disc, Tube entry and exit is shown in Yellow. I don�t know how to remove that white plastic disc as it�s very firmly fitted. I would again appreciate your support and assistance in working this out. Many thanks Kindest regards, Sherrie.

Hello NormK, Mowerfreak and AVB. Great outcome as you will see with my latest update. Can you kindly look at my next question and tell me what you feel is my next step in correctly replacing the new tub under the white plastic disc, which is like a capped cover. The old tube is still in under that white plastic cover, as I can see a very small piece, and trying to remove it, I realised that this wasn't going to be the answer as it kept breaking into little pieces, so there's a longer piece in there that would ( I assume) stop me from pushing the new tubing through. I would appreciate your replies. Kind regards, Sherrie

Replaced Oil Tube had been done, as stated in my message. How to now place the new tube from the entry to the exit under the white covered plastic disc, is my next issue.