OutdoorKing Repair Forum Forums Collectors Corner Rotary Singer Mower number 2

Hi ODK members and Jack just by luck have another Singer mower had to drive a whole 20ks to pick it up
Not seen this one mentioned anywhere
Look at the fuel tank shape
What is the engine ?
Yes I know what it is a� Hurricane�
So Jack where is this one going to fit in the history? Or have I got your grey matter turning over a bit fast
Ian

Hi Ian

Every ad I have for the rear catcher machine depicts the 4-stroke Villiers.
Each ad makes reference to a Deluxe 2-stroke. I had assumed that meant
a Villiers Torque Major Deluxe.

So Ian, your guess is as good as mine.
Is the Hurricane original? Maybe...

This is the first rear catcher machine I have seen, so a
great compliment to your other one.

Hi Ian

I thought I recognised this machine.
From Vintage Mowers website:



I think this confirms that you do have an original machine.
The 2-stroke Singer used a Hurricane engine!

A great new find.
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Jack

Hi Jack is the 'Deluxe 2-stroke' a 3 bolt flange?
There is no extra holes everything fits as if it is right
Ian
Your post got in before mine

Yes, the Torque Major had a three bolt base.

p.s. That is an unusual feature - the front cross axle
also acts as a lift handle.

Good find there Ian, and it fills in another bit of the
record on the not-so-well-known Singer Lawnmower.

I will update the History Record to reflect this new find.

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Jack.

Hi new to forum trying to find info on a singer mower I was given its in good running order it�s a side discharge and found this site helpful yet what puzzles me is it has a Briggs and Stratton engine and can�t find any reference in singer using them so I thought might not be original but it looks factory sprayed green which makes me think it the original engine and has pulley setup on shaft for accessories attachment I�ve read about ,anyway just wondered what you guys think

Hello Mick P
It is a replacement engine.
The series of numbers stamped above the muffler should date the Briggs to the 1980s.
That green is a Briggs factory colour.

Hope this helps
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Jack

Thanks for your help

Thanks for your help jack it�s a 79 model engine runs good so I�ll properly just use it as intended give it a service and see how it goes

Hi Mick P
I forgot to welcome you to these forums.

I think that is a sensible approach.
The main thing is that a rare AUS lawnmower is saved.
This does seem to be a venture only Singer (Australia) undertook.

Your late 1970s B&S is a great motor.
I'm guessing this is a 13 Series 5HP, rather than the 10 Series 4HP.
Either way, this is an overpowered chassis.

Please keep us informed as to progress.

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Jack

Thanks for the welcome ,yeah it�s a 5hp gave it an oil change and new fuel today and fired up straight away doesn�t miss a beat . Is there any issues to being �overpowered�?
Thinking I�ll keep an eye out for the 150cc villiers it came with , are these a rare engine to find?

Hi Mick
In this case - NO!

The 13 Series was an engine from the old school - smaller bore; longer stroke.
To my knowledge, the 13 was used on 21" walk-behind up to 26" ride-ons.
With its CI flywheel it produced max torque at a lower RPM than modern designs.

You have the latter engine with dual element air-cleaner, but before electronic ignition.
As I said, a sensible approach.

Cheers
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Jack

Thanks for your advice and knowledge
Much appreciated , Mick