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Here is a step by step detail of how to get a LM carby to work properly, G4 is at the end of this post, only difference is the cam modification, all other steps are the same

You will require a 6mm or 1/4 tap and two 25mm bolts (cut both of these to 18mm), 1 nut of whatever thread gauge you choose.
You also need a kill switch, this can be either a momentory contact switch or toggle switch, a little bit of electrical wire, lug and a connector

It requires a marker, hacksaw and 2 sockets to act as spacers to hold the cam steady in a vice, do not over tighten the vice as this will damage the cam

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Thread this with a 6mm or 1/4 thread (whatever matches the bolt you have), cut this bolt to 17/18mm long
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Total thickness of washers is approx 1.6mm
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Thread this the same size as the kill switch hole
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This is your new idle adjuster screw, this is the 2nd bolt you cut earlier to 18mm

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You no longer use the factory kill switch, use the momentary contact switch as shown, just fit one lead to the frame and the other wire to the wire that comes through the side of the original kill switch, the other wire is just cut off.
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Once you have everything re installed and the motor running, you then adjust the idle screw as shown above, to set the engine rpm start the engine, pull the throttle back to stop position and then adjust the idle screw to get the idle revs you require.

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This is how to modify the G4 cam, all other steps from the LM carby modification are required

You will require 1 x 4mm or 5/32 screw and tap

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Lifter / Spider height adjustment to the highest point on the cam and no further
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Thanks for going to the trouble of doing this, this will keep Powertorques running for another 30 years.

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Not only the Powertorques Tiger, all those full cranks fitted with the G4 carb

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well done. that seems to be a major improvement. rockon


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Very interesting stuff ! Thankyou for sharing it.


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That's certainly given us viewers a better idea of what you are talking about.
You have made a very clever ( in some ways) carby reach it's full potential.
Is it possible, just possible, that you have made it better than the G3 carburettor??


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Mowerfreak, not sure if it is better than the G3 and it doesn't really matter, there is buckets more of the plastic carbs out there, if you do this mod correctly the carb is guaranteed to work and that is all that matters

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Originally Posted by Mowerfreak
Is it possible, just possible, that you have made it better than the G3 carburettor??
It would be necessary to run some dynamometer tests with Exhaust Gas CO or O2 monitoring, to answer that one.

In any case, it's a moot point, as G3 carby spares are in the process of drying up - they have long been NLA from Victa, and at least one of the two major aftermarket OPE spares suppliers has now deleted most of them [GA Spares].

Many thanks for your superb how-to, Norm. good1


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I hate to think how many Victa pumped out over decades, but you are right, , of we spread the gospel that these things can actually have their bugs removed, we would at least partially stem the rapid ( and I mean RAPID) disappearance of this Aussie iconic backyard noise.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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Mowerfreak, one thing with this mod is the iconic backyard noise does not need to be so loud if the Powertorque is not revving its tits off mowing grass that is 1" high.
Gadge, my son is over from NZ and IT is his game so that is why it is clear, I just did the leg work

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Hello NormK,
I will save this and do it on my new PT project. I just have to sort out my base. it a lot of sanding , but will get there soon..
thanks for your effort.
speedy


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excellent work Norm,we can all save a two stroke now thank's to you..cheer's

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Does this result in a first time every time starting experience or do you still need to work on getting a strong spark and good sparkplug for that to happen?
One think I remember with a near new Power torque was the ridiculous ease in starting.
You could do it with your teeth.


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Coils on Powertorques rarely fail or give trouble and the carby has little control over the spark plug. If all the ducks line up they are usually a one pull start, unless the useless float needle is giving problems and I have little control over them because they are just expensive to buy,cheap Chinese junk and poorly made

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Another mod I did on an LM today, because the owner wanted to retain the kill switch was to drill and tap through the kill switch ramp on the cam in the same manner as I did with the G4 cam and this then allowed me to adjust the kill switch position and prevent it from running up to the flat on the top of the ramp and becoming stuck which results in having to pull the carb apart to free it up again. So far it is working well

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Getting back to the float needle problems I might have a crack with these and see how it works out. Getting the brass needles made they came back with a stupid price of $35 each. These are a bit better priced.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/252780607048?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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Hello NormK,
Did the mod, works well, smooth power. I used a fine hacksaw and got a really smooth surfaces on the gray part...
speedy


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