OutdoorKing Repair Forum Forums Repairs and Maintenance Questions On Ride On Mowers Questions on Greenfield Ride On Mower Frames HD8 - A New Project

i decided to pretty up this one and it is coming along nicely,not orig yellow but it will do,

i like it

Looks positively beudiiful! That machine sure is straight,

G'day gml

It is fantastic to see these early riders preserved!
I love the yellow and that stately grill and bonnet.

You will need to help me though.
So ... this is a Super 8 then?

I would like to also ask for comment on those heat vents
on the bonnet. These are not shown in the brochure.

Any info for the record welcome.

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Jack

g'day Jack i no little about it mate,i bought it and started to clean it up, i did a little panel work on it) one of the greenfield whiz's will have to chime in,mid 70's ? perhap's,will post more when i can, thank's guy's cheer's

G'day folks,
Early 1970's for this one. Superseded by the Mini-Tractor and then Tractor-x series in the mid 70's. For sure, this was still the current Greenfield model in 1973 [family ownership of a Greenfield dealership commenced in that year].

On the bonnet louvre vents, they seem to have appeared and disappeared during the production runs of the HD-8 and Super HD8, apparently without any logic.

Morning Folks,

Gadge, is there a difference between a super 8 and a HD8? (Re: my assumption/theory in the old soapbox)

Also, the PTO arrangement?

Cheers,

Yep, there are a number of design differences between the 'Super HD8' [as we shall call it henceforth], and HD8 models.
The most visible of these is the front axle mount. The drive setup is a bit different too, as the Super HD8 runs two belts from the engine - one to the wheel drive, which is constant drive; and one via the front manual clutch to drive the cutter deck or PTO.
Righto; I had to give this some thought, as I've only encountered one of those front-mounted slashers; it was the only one we ever sold - over 40 years ago now!

The Super HD8 PTO setup was very similar to that used on the HD8, as depicted in the HD8 IPL excerpt below.


Component #1 here is the same frame used to mount the conventional cutter deck. For front slasher use, Component #2 bolts up to that frame from below. It has a vertical spindle mounted at the centre of the crossbar of the T.

For the Super HD8, a single double groove pulley is fitted on that spindle, as it doesn't need the dog clutch used on the HD8. The 'cutter drive belt' from the engine is fitted to the top groove, and the PTO belt runs forward to the slasher, from the bottom groove.

gml, your rear axle and wheel for this superb looking machine are repaired, I'm home most of the time

thank's Norm i will be in touch soon mate

here ya go,my stable merry xmas to all...

G'day GML

I know I need help, but I find Greenfields attractive machines.
Maybe it is the stately grill ... ?

I think Glo Mod Gadge got me interested.
Your restorations are suburb in my view.

The red one must be super rare.
These are great images of the models.

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Jack

They have a stately stance about them, they really look the bees knees. As I said, they are worthy of a glass cabinet. Jean will be impressed

thank you fella's i love the look as well,now i must find the elusive g40

I'm gunna print a copy of the First photo and hang it in the shed as inspiration! I've got two weeks off over Christmas so hope to make a start -once I've painted the outside of the house and fixed the fences out the back. And the decals finish it off nicely

Well done!

Still keeping an eye out for a G40.........

thank's prd,i was grinning like a cheshire cat sat night when i finished "ol yella"

I had no idea that by repairing you axle and wheel that it would have such an impact on your Christmas

Well, all the more credit to you, NormK. And Season's Greetings to all concerned!

wow they are nice

Morning Gadge, gml and folks,

Firstly, my apologies Gadge. I hadn't noticed your reply to my questions tucked up above the photos.

Basically your saying that the HD8 term belongs to the red machines and 'super' to the yellow ones? That's interesting. I'd been given to think that the HD8 term only started with the yellows as there is no HD8 decals or reference to the term on the IPC for the red girls.

Ah!, a bolt on double pulley. That makes sense. Not quite so easy to fit as the arrangement with the dog clutch perhaps but given the extremely poor sales it's purely academic, I guess.

You raise an interesting point here, prd. Use of the 'HD8' designation for the 'old red' Greenfields is really just a habit we've got into at ODK, as a shorthand moniker for the 'second model' series. And that may not be quite accurate! That said, far from all of the 'third model' yellow 'Super 8's' we've seen have the HD8 decal on them, either.

The red machine pictured in this thread is apparently the very rare 'first model' Greenfield, going by its design features.
It's quite possible that the dual rear wheels are a factory option - they are mentioned in ads for the second and third model series, but are not shown in the IPL for either of those models.

Well, the dog clutch setup wasn't there so much for easy detachment, but to make it possible to disengage the cutter drive. We had one of those red painted T-piece PTO mounts in stock for years - it probably went to scrap when the business was sold. It's all history now anyway...

G'day again Gadge,

Ok, so the duals WERE an option! That updates me. I've suggested more than once that they must an afterthought. Live and learn.

True, the dog clutch was for 'clutching' but also made a nice disconnection point

Cheers

very interesting!!!

Perhaps another coup for you gml. Not only a VERY straight series one Greenie but the only set of duals, which, it appears,were at some point in time a factory option, Ive ever seen. Seems you were right to keep them. And shoot, they just add street cred anyway!

G'day all Greenies

It's a fascinating and important story this one.
Every post we seem to glean more info and a better common-language
about these lawn tractors.

I feel Gadge's view on the dual wheel option is a good one.
I see dual wheel options have been offered on many machines -
the main purpose being for bank work or soft ground issues.
AS Gadge says, they were options found in later machines:-



Cheers
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Jack

Jack,

Were the sideburns an optional extra or were those standard equipment in the seventies?

Interested to see that brochure in full too.

Cheers,

G'day prd

Fair question...
I don't know how they got Elvis Costello to be the model.
The seeming replacement for the '70s 'cool' is the nowaday 'Hipster'.

Hipsters are more defined by beards, rather than side-burns.
I feel I am subliminally advocating a return of the sideburn.
Did I say 'sideburn'? I meant, 'SIDEBURN'.

The brochure is an interesting one and I will put it up ASAP.
I just have to visit the barber first.

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Jack

I'd just like to point out that not everyone sporting a beard these days is a hipster.

Well, that bloke still had 'em in 1971!

Excerpt from a 1971 newspaper advertorial.

i alway's felt that the dual's where original,after learning that the mower came from belgrave in the mountain's,all this info is so interesting to me i feel like putting some flair's on and a cable stitch jumper and hush puppies and do some mowing !