OutdoorKing Repair Forum Forums Restoring, Customising and Modifying Victa Walk-Behind Rotary Mowers Victa 18 model 4

thanks guys i think ill take my air compresser and rattle gun but ill take a breaker bar with me as well but i will have to try and get my hands on a socket
it,s not realy worth me buying the mower as i,m getting the nut for $10 and it doesnt realy have much else on it i could use if they had the starter i would get the lot just to help mal out but thats missing

MrCJ, an 1 1/4" ring spanner does the job well, if you dont have one ask at a local machinery shop like a tractor dealer for a lend of one, they can only say no, put the mower on it's side so you can grab hold of the base plate and push, an 1 1/4" ring spanner is a big spanner and provides plenty of leverage, if the rest of the mower is RS it does not really matter what means of stopping the retch from turning over, if it does not have the base plate, get inventive and rough if need be to the rest of the mower but gentle on the nut I'm only a home mechanic but have both the right ringy and socket so I dont see why they should be hard to find someone with the right tools? CAT dealers or fitters also have big AF tools if you know of any.

thanks jonsey ill see what i can come up with i have found the right socket for sale but it,s $40 from ripco and i have got a can off rost off ice the forklift mechanic at work said it works great for getting siezed up nuts off and no he doesnt have 1-1/4 the largest his got is 1"
also for those that need to remove the base plate or starter and need to stop the engine from turning over the best way i have found is to remove the head turn the motor so it,s at the bottom of its stroke and then stuff the cylinder with rags and then put the head back on it will lock the motor up you can also do this with rope by removing the spark plug and feeding it in though the hole dont ask me where i was told this i cant remember but it works i used the same trick to remove the base plate on my day to day mower and that was on tight

Hi MrCJ,
I have seen the rope trick actually used, and it worked a treat.
It is a good easy method of locking up the motor for removal of the baseplate.

I got a 32mm deep socket would that do its 0.25 mm bigger than 1-1/4

Is it a 6 point socket, not a 12 point? Will it drop down over the ratchet teeth, so it fully engages the hexagonal part?

The 0.010" clearance due to it being 32mm instead of 1.25", in isolation, is not a fatal flaw, though it would mark the points of the hexagon slightly.

its a 12 point
i,m not sure of the height on the dog nut so i don't know if it will clear until i get to the guys house unless someone who has one can measure it the socket i have got is 45mm deep

i was also thinking if it was i little bit loose try wrapping the dog nut with aluminum foil before putting the socket on just to tighten up the slack

thanks

Is that 45 mm deep before the step-down to the clearance hole for a long bolt or stud?

I agree that some shim (preferably hard-rolled brass, about 0.005" thick) would probably prevent the nut from being bruised.

You are doing all the right things and preparing properly, it's just that in your picture the thing looked brand new and it would be nice if it stayed that way. If it were just a run-of-the-mill one that has already been unscrewed with a Stillson half a dozen times, you'd be over-prepared, if anything.

this isn,t the one i,m getting it was just a pic i found as a description of what i was getting the one i,m getting looks like the mower has sat outside for a wile

and it,s about 32mm before the stepdown and 45 to the back of the socket

It looks to me as if you'll need all of that 32mm at least. It would be good to have a heavy 1.25" ring spanner in your back pocket just in case. Having said that, I'd be in your situation: the biggest ring I have is only 1.125" from memory, and I tend to handle larger nuts than that rarely. When I do have to, I drag out a heavy old Dowidat 24" adjustable, and adjust it up very closely onto the hex. However back in the days when I had a tractor I found that just wasn't adequate to deliver the torque required, and I had to borrow whatever 3/4" drive socket I needed, for use with a giant breaker bar. You aren't in that situation here: I don't think you'll need a whole lot of torque. If it doesn't come off easily you will need to apply some Penetrene and wait a few minutes, rather than just try harder.

I suggest you take some Penetrene with you.

Im off work for a few weeks and I dont keep this size at home...32 will be fine but loose. if your gonna go this way you may as well take a shifter it will be tighter! 45 mm depth is fine...tip to hex base is 38mm. Have you got a map gas blow torch? just heat it off. Ive got brass shim if you want it or worse case ill take a nut off one of my mowers and you can get me one later as it aint going anywhere, and this is all sounding too hard as ive never seen so much attention paid to NUTS baahaaaa! Na im just clownin if you need anything I suggested come grab it....and bring me a choc chip muffin, im starvin

thanks guys well thats good news about the depth i havnt got a map gas torch but one of the guys at work gave me a can of Rost Off Ice apparently its good stuff for locked up nuts and and bolts. the main resion i,m asking is its one of the very few i have seen for sale and its like 2 hours drive to go get it i thought i could turn it into a nice day down the south coast but i dont want to come back empty handed lol

Its good stuff, shocks it and penetrates better than the norm...cant beat heat but Yeah they dont come up often...And a trip down south sounds great...Can I change my order to fish and chips instead?