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Gidday Jack

Your information about Pope taking over SupaSwift would mean Pope started with an alloy base mower
and ended production with a Pope alloy base.

This ad for SupaSwift in September 1974 makes more sense now because it advertises SupaSwift and Pope together.

I was hoping the Pope name on the base would be a casting instead of a decal.

With the Vulcan SupaSwift the name is cast on the base.

I have yet to see a surviving Whirlwind SupaSwift , the model with the rear catcher,this advert below is from vintagemowers.net.

Another one for the records is this first model Vulcan SupaSwift (first model Big Bob early 1960 s)
it's mostly still in one piece.

Cheers
Max.

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Hi Max

Yes, your brochure image makes a lot more sense now.

I would like to draw your attention to the other company Pope
took over at the time and mentioned in the Jan 1974 report ...
The Lawrence Group of garden hardware makers.

I wonder if this was Lawrence Brothers of Sydney ...?

Note the Lawrence Super 4 - a sort of Supa-Swift side throw with
a Pope catcher - a bit like the final Lawn Patrol.

https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/u...oundy-lawn-patrol-final-model-c1961.html

Cheers
Jack

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Gidday Jack

Possibly there is a connection between the Lawrence Group of garden hardware makers and the Lawrence Brothers.
I have not seen any detailed information about them or the Swift Brothers.

The Lawrence Super 4 looks like the same base casting as the last Lawn Patrol.

It looks more than likely the Swift Foundry made Lawn Patrol bases.

I was just trying to find out what BMS stood for with Lawn Patrol, I think
it 's Boundy Manufacturing Systems.

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Hi Max

Yep, that's my thinking too!
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I was just trying to find out what BMS stood for with Lawn Patrol, I think
it 's Boundy Manufacturing Systems.
Max, I have an answer to that - from Robin Boundy.
He said this in early 2018:-

I would like to add some information regarding the Boundy mower forum, firstly Jack
(Francis John) Boundy passed away Jan 3rd 1995 not in the 60's. BMS stood for
Boundy Mower Series by memory and the name Lawn Patrol was taken from his
time as a fighter pilot on the Dawn Patrol.


That story has more to tell.

Cheers
Jack

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Gidday Jack

Thanks for the interesting information about Boundy Mower Series and Lawn Patrol.

Cheers
Max.

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Another low arch, rear discharge, SS with catcher.

Cheers
Max.

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G'day Max

I wonder what your thoughts are on whether this is Supa-Swifts
first rear catcher model?

Note the gate lever that is lifted upwards in conjunction with the
height lever to change height adjustment.

Yes, the ad (below) advertises 10 positions.
Your image shows six?

My thinking is that the the first SS rear catcher was as per
your image. A fantastic find!

Also, this makes me thing SS rear catchers were introduced in late 1964,
for the 1965 season [or even earlier]. This is speculation. smile

Cheers
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Jack

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Gidday Jack

Yes I think it is the first rear discharge SS,when I called this mower a low arch ,I think it is really a no arch,it's base is
flat like the side discharge SS.

I think you have the date right .

"Yes, the ad (below) advertises 10 positions."
"Your image shows six?"

Just to explain that ,in the image that shows the height adjuster you can see six positions but behind those serrations are
another set of serrations the other set of serrations line up so the adjuster locks in between the outside serrations.

So there are two flat steel brackets both with serrations but in the image you only notice the outside steel bracket ,
you just can't see the second set of serrations in the image.

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12 slots for adjustment but 2 end slots overlap the other bracket so you get 10 positions.

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G'day Max
You've solved another mystery.
This two-tiered system is most unusual.

Cheers
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Jack

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Here's another Supaswift that passed through my hands about fifteen years ago. I can't remember if that's the original engine or not. I'd brought it home to swap bits to keep my Little Bob going.

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Hello suebutcher
Many thanks for recording this image some fifteen years' ago.

I have a Supa-Swift parts manual from the 1970s, so I hope to
post that shortly.

Supaswift certainly used Briggs 92908 engines, but I don't
think they specified the black colour.

Cheers
Jack




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A parts manual would be very useful, thanks! I'm sold on the old-time Supaswifts, but I've never found one without mods or bits missing. It's frustrating.

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Here's the Supaswift I found recently, with the Victa Kirby engine removed and the deck cleaned up. I like the cute Grand Prix styling. It could have been silly-looking, but it's actually quite an elegant design. The original colour of the deck was orange hammertone, which has faded to bronze where exposed to the sun. The uprights that carry the handle mechanism are silver hammertone. Notice that only three of the engine mounting holes have been used. I think that indicates that it had a Kirby engine before the Victa unit was put it. It also has two rivet holes on the side where Supaswift usually put throttles, so IF it's a 1966-67 range mower it has to be the Model 50 which came with the 143cc Kirby two-stroke. But that's a big if, it might be an unknown model from the later Sixties.

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G'day suebutcher
That was a great mid-arch design.
I would like to point out something about chassis design for rotaries...

The best designs had front strengthening to avoid base cracking.
I have seen too many bases cracked due to front impacts.
The bumper over-riders (auto style) did a good job on your base.

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A parts manual would be very useful, thanks! I'm sold on the old-time Supaswifts, but I've never found one without mods or bits missing. It's frustrating.
I finally found time for this project ...
https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/u...swift-parts-manual-c1970s.html#Post95796

Cheers
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Jack

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Gidday All,
Here are a few more of my Vulcan mowers,the Gold,Silver and Bronze Vulcan SupaSwift mowers for the records.




Cheers
Max.

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The SupaSwift Tudor,the date code on the motor is 1980 ,not sure if that motor is original.



Cheers
Max.

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Picked up another 4 stroke SupaSwift mower. I think it's around 1975, with catcher.

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Here's my Galaxy GT looking more like what it's supposed to be, now I've found more Superswift parts at the tip. I'm very happy with the results. The silver tank decal is ink-jet printed and on self-adhesive mylar sheet, and waterproofed with clear lacquer. I've no idea where you'd buy the material, it just turned up a junk sale, like these things do!

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G'day suebutcher
This is an amazing topic you presented.
You have shown us how a Supa-Swift Galaxy GT once looked.

This has been an enduring and much frequented series of posts.

Many thanks suebutcher!

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