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#52997 25/01/14 10:38 PM
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Hi All,
Just wondered if anyone can ID this Kohler engine.
The ID plate is missing,so I have no way to identify it.
The National dealer has ignored my emails,so hoping for help here.
The carby housing is cracked,so I need to replace it.Fuel leaks everywhere when the fuel tap is turned on.

Thanks again,
Jim

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Hi Jim 123 and a warm welcome back to the forum. grin

To help us identify your engine we will need more pics from different angles....the pic you provided does not show much detail of the engine itself.
You can use our inline uploader for your pics, instructions are contained...Click HERE
This will give you the best chance of someone chiming in here with an answer for you. wink
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The carby...

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A close-up of the rating plate on the generator would at least give us an idea of the power output of the engine. Is it a side valve 4 stroke?

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Hi ,
The Modra Gen is about 4KVA.
It ran great last week,but very leaky today.

I scratched away some paint on the leaky carb body & found a number...62 024 294. I'm hoping it's a part number & not a casting number.
Now,if I can only get a reply from a dealer..

Is it common for such engines to only rely on an ID plate? I'd have thought there would be an ID number stamped on the engine somewhere...


Thanks,
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I can't trace that part number through Kohler spare parts - I think that is the number of a carburetor part, not a carburetor. Usually the only parts serviced are wearing bits such as gaskets/seals, floats, needles, perhaps butterfly pivot shafts, maybe jets. Otherwise you replace the whole carburetor. I've looked through the carburetor service parts list, and there is nothing beginning with 6. Hence I do not think you can replace the part that belongs to that part number. You might or might not be able to get a complete carburetor, if we can trace the engine model and if it isn't too old for parts still to be available.

Can you photograph the leak so we can talk about what part is actually damaged?

Meanwhile, here is the Kohler carburetor service manual, in case you can find the carburetor from the pictures. That cross-links to engine model numbers:

http://www.kohler-engine-parts.opeengines.com/flash/Carburetor_Parts_Reference_Manual.swf

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Hi Grumpy, I found these engine parts lists misfiled (in the Restoration, Customising and Modification topic) and moved them to the correct Engine Parts Lists and Manuals area. Click HERE

One the second post, there is a thread K91+4HP TP-392-C .pdf. It contains Generator Specs 4002-40219.
It may prove useful here. wink
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Thanks Daryl & Grumpy,
The number I gave is weird...first part is embossed & the last 3 numbers are Stamped in.
The white pen shows the area where the long crack has appeared.
The part number is shown at top of bowl..
I recently bought this engine,& assume it hasn't seen much recent action.It goes well..

I have a couple of other Kohlers...a 181 & 161,I think.This looks like them to a degree.Maybe it's a different brand??

Thanks,
Jim

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Showing the cracked housing..

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I can't see the detail I'd need to decide what it is. We need to identify the locations of the mixture adjustments. It looks something like the Kohler 1/2" or 1" Adjustable Carburetor on pages 10 to 13 of the carburetor manual. It does not look (to me) anything like the Walbro carburetors.

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Grumpy,
I had left this genset sitting for a while & decided to try & find some ID on it.
I can see a Mitsubishi logo on the pull start/flywheel area.There is a part number embossed on there & I'll pull it apart tomorrow to get a good look.
Does this look like a 30 year old Mitsy engine to you?
It was sold to me as a Kohler...

I'm gonna see if I can talk to a Modra genset agent in WA & see if they know anything about the engines.The Modra were matched to Honda & other engines,but maybe this engine will strike a note with the agent.

I'd like to get this carby issue sorted...it's a good unit.

Thanks again,
Jim

PS: The original fuel tank was dented & dirty,so I added the white tank recently.

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I'm not familiar with most of the Mitsubishi engines. I know they made side valve, air cooled stationary engines something like Briggs ones, from 1946 and built them into a scooter, and probably other products as well. They were 1.5 hp initially. By 1960 they had 175 and 200 cc versions (I had one of the 1960 200 cc scooters). So, if it is Mitsubishi it might even be older than 30 years, and perhaps a collector's piece. The engine in my scooter was a decent unit.

If it actually is Mitsubishi, it should have identification cast into the crankcase I think: at least their 3 diamonds emblem.


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