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Hi all, just wanted to show off my latest find from my scrappy. A new condensor and a quick clean of the kill switch and and she was off and running(and stopping) like a beauty.

Good score there Bigted, Jefery will be green with envy very good condition too.

Woowee!

One Of my Favorites, the 1973-1974 VC-Sports, Coded V137.

Series 70 MKIII Engine, the last to use the G3 Carby, it was essentually the same as the MKII engine, using a decompressor and recoil starter combined for Victa's famous 'Zip' start system, however minor alterations were made to the ignition, and a few minor updates to the carby.

This was the First sports, it was a major part of the line up that came in in 1973 to replace the VC-160 which had run from 1970. The Line up included the VC Sports in multiple colour options (the first time there was a choice in colour) the VC Mustang, again in more than one colour, the colpletly restyled VC-125 (now given the appearence of the Sports) and the Impala (available in 2 & 4 Stroke)

From a collection stand point, other interesting mowers to go aside this one would be anything from it's coluor spread (Orange/White, Green/White, and Purple/Aqua) or any of the 73 Mustangs (Green/Green & Red/White)

Restoration wise, it looks damn near perfect, the nose is a little pushed in, but everything seems to be original and intact, catch lever not snapped, starter grip correct (designed to fit the mustang too) and all the right wheels. provided the air filter and throttle lever set up are right (not visible), she's spot on!

Thanks Ty, yes it appears to be very original and a low miler also. Admittedly i changed the catch lever cos it was snapped. Correct throttle and airfilter with the V137 sticker intact are present.

Wonderful

Hi BIGted, Jonesy, Mr Davis and ODK members,

Bigted, that's such a nice and mild restoration of a classic. Awesome!
Ty's summary was, as always, fantastic, and incisive as well.

The 1970s is my favourite decade for all things Victa.
Purple flaired pants, wide white belt, paisley shirt, cravats . .
and the Purple/Aqua VC Sports. What a sight!

Thanks for sharing BigTed!

All very psychedelic.
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JACK

Yes Jack, we've never met, but i can picture you wearing a cravat with your long golden locks shining in the afternoon sun, with some Jethro Tull or Credence playing in the background. lol

Damn!

You have met me Bigted!

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JACK

Hi bigted, Jonesy, Mr Davis , CyberJack and ODK members,

And who can forget the platform shoes, body shirts (complete with dangler) Safari Suits and listening to the Dooby Brothers!

Very nice vc sport. Very tidy aswell :-)

Well I don't know about about green with envy.Maybe if it was a green one.However it does make mine one look a lot older and used.



See no where nears as nice.
So good work there Bigted,it's a shame we weren't closer.
I do need to try and find the other VC-Sports as I only have two.This one and the purple one.

So by the "other" one i presume you mean the green/white one.
Hmmm, i'll have to keep a look out.

Yes well that is one of them.There is an orange and a green that run G4 carbys.
Here are the two I had.I really don't know what I did with this first one.All I know is I don't have it anymore.Wished I still did it was fixable and would have been worth it.
See the side the air hose comes out.



This was the other I had,in fact it was the first of the two I had.
This ones base was so worn like it had been mowing sand.It had holes all through the left side of the base.This one I wrecked out until I could find a base.That didn't happen before the move,so I don't think there is much left of it now.Bugger.

Look past the carby on the right.Yes that is a hole.Again worn down not broken,worn.

This one has the air hose on the opposite side.

I'm not even sure I have the dress cowl anymore and there wasn't much wrong with it.One partially broken fin.I seem to have miss placed a lot of items from that move.Items I wanted and needed to keep just went missing,and I thought I was sorting it properly.Just to much of a hurry I suppose.
It's funny a friend I have here was telling me that he knew of a VC-Sports I could have when I got here as he knew of one needing re-homing.I said thanks but I don't need it,boy was I wrong.

So I guess that's my sad VC-Sports story.I hope your not tearing up as I am.All sad but true.Oh those VC-Sports.

Blumby

What is going on with the green sport with the snorkel coming out over the arch?

What year is this?
Is it a conversion?
What rubber elbow is being used?
Can a conversion be done?

It makes more scenes so that the primer cap can be installed and used easily.

Mick

Ok, i get it, 2 types basically, one with primer and snorkel on the RHS and one is primerless/remote primer with snorkel on LHS, oh then of course there's the G3 type.

Interesting.. I've never seen a Victa carby set up like that.. How would you reach the primer?


I see alloy wear like that very rarely.. It's from sand.. People mow on sandy soil and it destroys the bases..


Kori

Close bigted but the one coming from the carby side didn't have remote primers.They were a bit like the VC-Mustang Mark II.Which were from the same time period.If you have an engine that was running well you didn't need a primer,you just waited about 10 seconds to allow the fuel to run through.It does work still my VC-Mustang Mark II still starts on the second pull and it has no primer.

The first VC-Sports were released in 1973 to 74 Victacode V137 which had the G3 carbys.Which only came in two colours red & white or purple and blue.OK I hear you saying that their was a green one.Well I guess of sorts there was,but in-fact that was the VC-125 Mark III.It has a sticker on the dress cowl marked as VC-125 Sports,but really wasn't the VC-Sports as it only run the MK III 125cc 2 stroke,not the 160cc,and fitted into the VC-125 family.
Their was a 2nd release of the VC-Sports but I'm not entirely sure whether that was from 1974 or 1976.I think (Now I'm only guessing,so don't get up me if I'm wrong) it was from 1976 to 1978,and run along side the VC-Mustang which did out sell the sports.Even though in this run they again had two different colours. This time it was red and white & green and white.Can't find the victacode for these ones and they run the G4 carby.In which the variation in the carby direction as was with the Mustang.
So I hope this answers some questions.
Also if anybody has any of these sports (Including bigted)if they could post up their numbers as I'm doing some research to verify my information.
As once again there really isn't a lot of information out there in regards to this model.
Thanks.

I have just acquired a VC-SPORT series 70 mark 4. Just looking for any information! It has been converted to have a G4 LM carby that has a grey toggle to adjust fuel/air ratio and a primer bulb facing inward towards the right, if you're facing/holding the handle. Serial number 1076013877

Hi Seanos,
Welcome here where we try to help.
First question is what do you plan to do with it, use it for mowing or restore it as a project?

Restoration, as a hobby. But currently not looking to sell my mowers after I have restored them. Also to learn as much as I can about victa mowers pre 1980 so I can help others where ever I can! I'm just in love with all vintage mowers but especially victa's!

All good, I can't help you with restoration details but others might, I just grab those when I can and rip the motors off so I can use them on utilities/ slashers. Does it run and do you have a catcher, they are usually all banged up and good ones are hard to find.

G'day Seanoss and Norm

Nice 1976 model you have there ,this mower came out with the G4 carburettor and the Victa code is V174.

A search of the Herald Sun may find an image of this green VC sports.

Another one I liked from that time line was the Sunbeam.

Cheers
Max.

Thanks mate, this is the first evidence of the V174 part number

Would love to find a manual for the 76 Victa 2-stroke VC-SPORT part reference V174

The victa code it V174, very difficult to find information on. It's an export model, 76-77 export VC-SPORT and the export Mustang have the carby in a backwards configuration. It's so difficult to find all and any information about these but it's out there.....

I've followed this forum for some time but just become a member .... thanks for all the knowledge and interesting posts I've seen up until now.

I've been pushing Victas ever since age of 5 or 6 in about 1961 ... starting with my uncle's Victa 18 Special.
After an unsuccessful foray in the early 60s with an H G Palmer 4 stroke, in the mid 60s my father acquired (in my opinion) the best Victa ever being a 160CC Corvette 2 with impulse starter.

That was eventually replaced with a 1980 Victa Charger with 3.5HP B&S (from David Jones George St Sydney Homewares store) which now looks the worse for wear ... but is still going strong 42 years later.
I struggle to drive past any abandoned mower and some 15? years ago I stopped for a V137 Series 70 Mark III Sports (G3 Carby) which I understand is 160cc. The owner had just given away the catcher however I picked one up from Earlwood Lawnmowers Sales & Service at William Street, Earlwood - legends.

It has graced our holiday shack since that time and has served alongside the Charger.
However, I recently turfed a steep embankment and the 4 stroke with a wet sump is not up to working on its side and I now need to rely on the trusty 2 stroke Sports ... which has a problem ...
Ever since acquiring the Sports it would start and barely keep running, hunting and fading at a slow idle until it warmed up. Once warm, the throttle could carefully be advanced and gradually it would sustain higher revs.
However 2 years ago it just refused service altogether.

Since then I have stripped, cleaned reassembled the carby; replaced all ignition components (coil, condensor, points), also replaced rusted out muffler.
After reassembly including timing, it took time to get started and demonstrated the same low rev hunting and fading for a few seconds ... except it did once rev right out which encouraged me to believe that the timing etc was all as it should be.
I've removed and substituted the ZIp decompressor with a spare spark plug to check if that was the issue.
Have checked for spark with the plug out and grounded and there is a reliable strong spark when turning the engine over.
Have sloshed a shot of fuel down the air inlet pipe to establish whether it is a carburation / starving issue - no effect.
I'm at a loss and am wondering whether it is a compression issue such as crankcase seals, piston rings ???
Maybe I should put some oil down the bore to seal the rings and test it again ?
They are generally to simple to sort ... it's generally either no spark or no fuel !

I love the old series Victas and am sure this has more service yet to give.
Any suggestions as to where to from here would be much appreciated.
Cheers, Ross

G'day Ross

I've had these 2 stroke Victa mowers refuse to rev out when the exhaust port has mostly blocked up with carbon ,it's
easily checked if that's the problem ,just remove the muffler and check the port hole isn't restricted, if it's restricted
get the carbon out with a screw driver making sure not to damage the piston or rings in the process.

Also I would run the motor without the air filter element first, to see if it will rev out ,leave the filter housing connected
and check it has a restriction hole in one end otherwise the motor won't run right all the Victa 2 stroke motors have
a restriction on the filter housing ,then very carefully check the induction hose (rubber hose pipe) for any where the
hose is not fully round as I've had a few that would not rev out because the air intake rubber pipe had slightly
kinked on a bend etc and was restricting air flow and when I held the pipe with my fingers so the pipe is fully round
again on the bends the motor revved out as normal.

An easy way to test this is to remove the air filter housing and put a straight short hose on the carby connected to the filter housing
and run the motor or use kink free intake hose or straighten hold all the parts of the hose that look flattened , just hold the hose
with fingers so it's round and unrestricted on all the bends etc when it's on full throttle .

I've had crank case bolts come loose and a crank case leak will stop the motor running properly, also check head bolts are tight and
gaskets are good as a leaking gasket can stop a motor revving out.

You say that a shot of fuel down the intake pipe didn't help so sounds like the fuel tap is flowing fuel well enough and
the needle in the carby isn't getting stuck shut. Sometime I like to turn the fuel off and just run the engine off a squirt
of start ya bastard down the intake for a few seconds to see if the motor will run and rev out on starter fluid.

If the crank seals are leaking it will be hard to start and sometimes you can see the lower half of the crank will be wet.

Cheers
Max.

Hey Max ...
Thx so much for taking the time to respond ... greatly appreciated.
Your comments re the filter housing are likely to be very relevant ... "all the Victa 2 stroke motors have
a restriction on the filter housing"
... the air filter housing has been broken ever since I acquired it and I fashioned a cover sleeve for it by cutting the conical top off a 350ml plastic soft drink bottle and sliding it down over the original. Also I have just identified that the filter element has a hole in it. I'll check out the whole air intake plumbing ... as well as your other suggestions - and see what transpires.
Many thanks.

Yes the original filter housing hole is 1/2 inch or 12 .7 mm.


Cheers
Max.