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So 3 more arrived this morning!

The consul 2 is sitting on an 83 utility deck. I believe the motor is off a 63-64 Consul 2 model 511 V18 or 64-65 Consul 2 model 521 V23. Serial number is 25 63 80 97. So I'm guessing 1963 build or 66. Unless it's a completely different engine with a consul 2 parts put on it as a bit's and pieces mower. Which the deck definitely show that its had changes made. But it runs, and I love puzzles.....

The powerplus motor sitting on a 70's series deck that's been spray painted at some stage but it looks like they were trying to match an original green. So for the condition of the deck, it's excellent for a VC sport range resto. The serial number on the engine is 369 005567. So I believe this is the 1980 engine.

The other I don't know much about ("YET") but that just leaves me more researching to do, which I really enjoy. But here it is. Serial number 44 77 02 885

G'day Sean

Thanks for the VC 125 number Sean ,I've checked one that I have and it's the same 10 code at the start ,both our VC 125
mowers are 1977.

The Consul 2 motor looks right for 1963 ,just bolted to a later base.

Going by the Powerplus number I would say 1979.

The Waltons mower is made in the 44th week 1977.

I think the Waltons mower may be a little difficult finding a catcher for , a catcher from a 1969 Corvette or Cortina
should fit the Waltons mower.

The 3 mowers you bought Sean look good for the price they were.

Cheers
Max.

But but but but but...how can that be when the G4 carby took over in 1976 as well as the VC 125 being known as a model that only lasted in production for about a year -with two base castings 1973 -74?

The only explanation is the crankcases were replaced sometime in their lives.



That is plausable as well as the dating of the PP for 79.
I managed to get a catcher for that base for $10.00 with a tiny 1cm crack on the lower lip.

Hi Maxee. I'm putting together a strong argument that the formula on this forum isn't right. It makes all of my 1973-74 range mowers engines made in 77 but so far, of the 3 I've checked (with the g3 carbys) 2 of them have 4th digit 7 fith digit 3 and one 7 and 5. I don't think it's just the 4th, I think it's the 4th and 5th!

I've got 3 more to check tomorrow!

Which makes yours 74! Maxee.

Oh, the powerplus is 1980, the engine that is. The consul 2 is an original 63 consul 2 engine. It's sitting on either an 80's model utility or an earlier similar one. But the bump all around the deck is exactly the same model that I put in the picture above.

Must be a pre 81 base as the engine is facing north south, IE: head facing rear. The 81 -on full crank ute base had the engine east west like all side pull full crank engine mowers, to prevent the operator having to start it from the right hand side.

One advantage of the cup start engines was the motor could face the rear or the side and have the pull start facing the rear either way. Not so with the side pull.

G'day Sean and Mf

Yes I had overlooked that the VC 125 mowers have the G3 carby making your mower 1973 and my mower 1974.

The VC 125 code is 107 and VC Sports 160 is 108

With the Powerplus mower I would look for numbers on the head .The Powerplus looks September 1979 to me.



Cheers
Max.

Hey guys, I was hesitant to post the serial numbers because of the confusion around the 1970's codes. I was almost %100 sure I (A "NEWBEE") was going to have to prove that my 73-74 mowers, were in fact, 73-74 mowers.

I am new to collecting these amazing pieces of art, history and an amazing amount of engineering! But I'm not new to researching, working on mowers and determination to get answers!

Im really really happy that you Maxee, expected the reasoning that MF and I put forward about the G3 carbys! I hope you can sit back pretty happy today knowing your VC125 is all original!!! Now, get that mower out of the garden and clean it up! Or at least keep it out of the weather! They are rare!!! To the right collector they are extremely valuable, just ask MF!

Cheers guys, I hope I have helped out a bit!!

Expected was supposed to say accepted! I got heaps of goodies today but I've just sat down after being on the road since 7 this morning. Driving all over the place to pick up some rare mowers and parts.

I am dedicated to this new passion and it's given me more than I could ever give back!!! I love that there is a community of people who are dedicated to saving this piece of history. No matter what era, brand, or type of mower is your own personal passion, there are many many other people out there that love it just as much as you!!!

The people I have met, when I'm off on a long day of driving from one side of the state to the other for just a cowling ( not literally ) have been great to talk to! I have found my passion and enthusiasm for these mowers rubs off on, so far, everyone I talk to about them and what I'm doing with the mowers and when I show people pictures of my collection of mowers, memorabilia and the manuals they just end up remembering seeing their dad mowing the lawns when they were a kid or something similar and it would be hard to find someone over the age of 35 who doesn't have some pleasant memories of being a kid and seeing someone mowing a lawn in the neighbourhood.

Im getting a second wind, so I might go and take 1 or 2 pictures from today's excursions!!!

G'day all seventies Victa enthusiasts

Sounds like your seventies VC Victa Sports mower collection will be complete soon Sean. I think I've
acquired most of the set .

Yeah the VC 125 of mine is under tin ,hasn't deteriorated any more than when I bought it ,no
idea where my other 125 VC is .

Pics of a few Victa mowers I sold .

Cheers
Max

They're all nice mowers maxwestern, but the VC 125 mk 3 is the dream machine for me, especially a 73 build with near mint decal on an undamaged cover!!

Absolutely beautiful machines mate!!! The powerplus is very very nice!!! I love them all actually..... I have the powerplus set-up ready to go, I have the red VC-SPORT set-up ready to go. I see some absolute gold in.those pictures! I don't know if you're keeping them as preservation jobs (I'm doing that with as many of mine that deserve it like the VC125) or restore to new but no matter what, they are awesome..... I'm going to have to hit you up for some colours at some stage Maxee! I'm probably not going to find everything to do my restorations so knowing someone else has the entire machine in original condition will really help if your open to me picking your brain so my restos are at original as possible!!!!

G'day Mf and Sean

Unfortunately I sold all those mowers above years ago , I probably have collected most of them again except
the red VC Mustang and I don't know if I have a Powerplus .

With the paint the only way to get it right is to take a sample to a paint shop that can mix the colour so you get an exact
copy or as close as possible ,unless you can find an off the shelf paint that looks the same colour.

I can put up some pics of the colours if your mowers don't have any good original paint left on them Sean.

I've found my other VC 125 cowl cover ,it's not too bad .

Cheers
Max.

I have no idea why I'm only seeing this now Max but, those are 2 pretty nice cowlings there mate!!!

So this little thread has some rather large holes in it that I have information that will fill at least 1 gap in the Mustang history that I'm trying to put together correctly. But if I can't get my hands on a franchise 78-79 Dial A Code.

Quickly before I present my theory I will also make the call that the mowers official name is Mustang and never VC-Mustang the VC is just the decal.

Here is my theory: there is another model that is considered a store brand and it only appears in a dial a code I have from 75-76 and it clearly shows the V173 Mustang and I have 2 mowers with that decal and 1 V174 VC-SPORT in Green. On this dial a code it shows quite clearly that all of the other mowers bar 1 show the G4 carby quite clearly with a primer showing. So I was wondering if they didn't have an answer at that stage so they used the sneaky "store brand" to see if they could get It to work. One of my 75 Mustangs has the remote primer.

NOW the story about the:
"MYTHICAL PRIMER-LESS CAP"
Now I've heard a bunch of stories about the failed primerless cap on the first G4 carbys. Now I really don't think a company as big as victa in the mid 70's would put into production a carby cap that was a failure. I think they would have tested everything going into production to the enth degree. Now yes the G4 and LM carburettors needed tweeking but they never had failures. So they had to quickly get remote primers for the next release of the mustang (probably the flagship mower at the time) so they released it in a very shifty way.

Now I believe they did this again in 78-79 but I have no proof. Because there is one other Mustang that doesn't fit into the part reference guides i have but it exists! It's the first time the the throttle cable and air hose came out over the arch through a tear drop shaped hole in the cowling and the cowling was green like the previous Mustangs but a different decal and the deck was still the same as the previous Mustangs. So the next group of pictures are of the mystery Mustang and the one that officially comes out on the parts list.