Need help?


Search OutdoorKing-Forum by entering Key Words Below



Who's Online Now
1 members (Dandare), 2,539 guests, and 581 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Online Spare Parts


Online Store


Newest Topics
Victa special electronic ignition
by niggz - 09/09/25 10:09 AM
FREE - Victa PowerTorque Mowers
by Polybus - 09/09/25 08:40 AM
McCulloch Mowcart 66
by mm-mowers - 06/09/25 01:20 PM
McCulloch Mowcart 66 service manual
by mm-mowers - 05/09/25 05:03 PM
Loncin 452cc (19hp?) some help is required
by Steve_2012 - 05/09/25 03:15 PM
Victa Magneto to suit early Rotomo 5A
by xsancanin - 02/09/25 08:42 PM
SEVEN Victa Utilities
by Polybus - 01/09/25 10:23 AM
Topic Replies
Victa special electronic ignition
by Bruce - 12/09/25 05:08 PM
Loncin 452cc (19hp?) some help is required
by Bruce - 12/09/25 12:01 PM
FREE - Victa PowerTorque Mowers
by Polybus - 10/09/25 08:03 PM
McCulloch Mowcart 66
by Bruce - 06/09/25 06:33 PM
McCulloch Mowcart 66 service manual
by mm-mowers - 05/09/25 05:03 PM
1971 Victas Self Propelled plus Corvettes
by Polybus - 04/09/25 04:02 PM
More Cox Cone Help
by swamprat96 - 03/09/25 12:56 PM
SEVEN Victa Utilities
by Polybus - 03/09/25 11:11 AM
Victa Magneto to suit early Rotomo 5A
by xsancanin - 02/09/25 08:42 PM
Peerless 820 transaxle
by maxwestern - 01/09/25 06:28 PM
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rating: 5
Hop To
Page 5 of 5 1 2 3 4 5
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 6,926
Likes: 10
Pushrod Honda preferrer
***
I'm a bit worried when you say "springs" - the later designs have 2 springs, but the 60102 governor only has one spring, as shown in the diagrams I posted. BTW, if I recall correctly the instructions for my engine said you should start and tune that engine with the speed control in about mid-position.

The stuff I post about B&S engines largely comes from the B&S engine overhaul manual. I got it from here:
http://www.tpub.com/content/recoveryvehicles/TM-5-4240-501-14P/css/TM-5-4240-501-14P_78.htm

You can look at any page of the manual on-line, or buy the whole thing either as a download or on CD. It doesn't cover the current series, or any of the Chinese-made engines.

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 134
Apprentice level 2
mines got 2 springs, one attaches to the governor and the throttle, and the other attaches to the throttle and the chassis.


Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 6,926
Likes: 10
Pushrod Honda preferrer
***
Can you post a picture of that please? It doesn't sound like a 60102 governor.

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 134
Apprentice level 2
ITS ALIVE MWAAHAHAHA!

got the petrol cap and air filter and hooked everything up and it runs like a dream now, no hunting or inconsistent revs, it runs fantastic.

just need to fine tune the reel adjustment and ill have a fully functional restored mower.


images of the throttle setup here for you grumpy.

[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]

Last edited by grumpy; 17/01/11 01:20 PM. Reason: Localise images
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 6,926
Likes: 10
Pushrod Honda preferrer
***
The second spring on that is just a return spring for the remote control, it does not affect the governor. It just biases the speed setting lever to make it easier to adjust via a very inefficient Bowden cable, it does not affect the butterfly throttle's position. You can see a similar deal, where a monstrous additional spring was used for that purpose, on Kirby Lauson (Tecumseh) mower engines of about that period. I don't care for the mechanism - the genuine B&S one I posted seems much more elegant to me - and yours had a kinked Bowden cable right at the anchor point as well, but it has no bearing on your governor instability. So what did you do to fix the instability: tune the mixture?

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 134
Apprentice level 2
i put the spring in the right holes for starters, but i had to twist and strighten the link govener so that the loop was facing toward the engine, the spring was getting stuck on the throttle mechanism and the starter cover. then i adjusted the mixture screw and the idle speed.

Also had to get some washers for the carby screws, they kept shaking loose so it was sucking air through there as well.

now it starts on the 3rd or 4th go and doesnt stop or loose power when i engage the blades or the roller. Its a bit much to ask it to start on first considering the tiny amount of pull the start has, besides the fact that its 35 odd years old.

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 6,926
Likes: 10
Pushrod Honda preferrer
***
I had to change the curve in my governor link too - it was fouling on things. The way I start mine is chainsaw style. It has a very crude, chainsaw-like choke with no spring-loaded "unloader" feature such as real carburetors have. So, I close the choke, pull the starter either once or twice, and it chugs then stops. I open the choke fully, pull once, and it starts and runs. I used your method until I looked at the choke and realised only brute force would work - now it starts more easily. I agree, mine was about fourth pull in warm weather if I didn't use the choke.

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 134
Apprentice level 2
here are the final restoration pics of my lawn mower, just mowed the front an back lawns and it does a bloody good job

as you can see its already got some wear and tear from its first few hours use, but it looks a treat and goes a treat too
[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]

and for comparasin the before and after pic

[Linked Image][Linked Image]

[Linked Image][Linked Image]

Last edited by grumpy; 21/01/11 04:27 AM. Reason: Localise images
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 6,926
Likes: 10
Pushrod Honda preferrer
***
Well done tezza, you persevered and got the results you aimed for.

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,362
Likes: 10
Administrator - Master Technician
****
Hi Tezza, good job mate, she looks a real treat. grin
Can you tell me why your grass deflector is so far forward?
cheers2


Please do not PM me asking for support. Please post your questions in the appropriate forums, as the replies it may receive may help all members, not just the individual member.
Kindest Regards, Darryl grin


Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 134
Apprentice level 2
thats how it goes, its got the two black handled fasteners that attach to the grass deflector, unless i have to put those two other thingies through the fasteners?

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,362
Likes: 10
Administrator - Master Technician
****
Hi Tezza, mate, you've got it fitted incorrectly...You slide the deflector down behind the reel, the 2 spring clips attached to the back of it (on the bottom of deflector) clip over the top edge of your bottom blade holder and the 2 top adjustment arms (the "springy things") slide through the slots under the 2 black knobs and allow you to move the deflector back or forward to direct the grass into the grass box correctly. wink
Here are some pics to show you...please excuse my dirty Scotty, I have just finished mowing late yesterday, during a break in the rain..... grin
[Linked Image]

Shows the top attachment
[Linked Image]

Hoping this helps,
cheers2

Last edited by grumpy; 15/01/11 01:36 PM. Reason: Localise pictures

Please do not PM me asking for support. Please post your questions in the appropriate forums, as the replies it may receive may help all members, not just the individual member.
Kindest Regards, Darryl grin


Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,362
Likes: 10
Administrator - Master Technician
****
Hi Tezza, did you get the deflector to slip into position?
cheers2


Please do not PM me asking for support. Please post your questions in the appropriate forums, as the replies it may receive may help all members, not just the individual member.
Kindest Regards, Darryl grin


Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 134
Apprentice level 2
yeah i figured it out. Now crap doesn't fly out from the reel and hit me in the head.

Last edited by tezza98_tnharris; 09/03/10 02:48 PM.
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,362
Likes: 10
Administrator - Master Technician
****
Hi Tezza, you might like to consider taking another pic for your avatar now you have corrected the deflector. wink
cheers2


Please do not PM me asking for support. Please post your questions in the appropriate forums, as the replies it may receive may help all members, not just the individual member.
Kindest Regards, Darryl grin


Joined: May 2009
Posts: 133
Apprentice level 2
***
Gotta love that blue paint....

Craig

Last edited by Deejay; 21/04/10 04:42 AM. Reason: As this project is complete, this topic is now locked

Keep On Truckin'
Page 5 of 5 1 2 3 4 5

Link Copied to Clipboard
Forum Donation
These Outdoorking Forums have helped Thousands of people in finding answers to their equipment questions.

If you have received help, please consider making a donation to support the on-going running cost of these forums.

September
M T W T F S S
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30
ShoutChat
Comment Guidelines: Do post respectful and insightful comments. Don't flame, hate, spam.
Newest Members
blindsided, aayliffe, Flano, mattyj, Markp88
17,579 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums145
Topics12,992
Posts106,838
Members17,579
Most Online14,275
Sep 11th, 2025
OutdoorKing Showcase
20 Bucks from FB Marketplace
20 Bucks from FB Marketplace
by Return Rider, February 20
Victa Cortina 2 Shed Find
Victa Cortina 2 Shed Find
by Return Rider, January 25
My Rover Baron 45
My Rover Baron 45
by Maxwell_Rover_Baron, April 16
SHOWCASE - Precision Mowers - 2021
SHOWCASE - Precision Mowers - 2021
by CyberJack, April 14
SHOWCASE – Atco Rotary – Paul C - 2020
HOME |CONTACT US
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 8.0.0
(Release build 20240826)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 8.3.24 Page Time: 0.030s Queries: 48 (0.023s) Memory: 0.7156 MB (Peak: 0.8199 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2025-09-12 17:09:08 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS