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Hi Jeff,
this is where my concrete insert wheels might be a better idea, I just have to prove they will stand up to the stone/debris impacts

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Hi Norm

Concrete insert wheels
Really? Never heard of such an item. Photos & description please.

I really do not think wheel damage is much of an issue with a simple homemade deflector
Not even that much of the clippings seem to exit at the front. Most of it just hits the back on the L shaped piece of metal then shoots to the side.

Ordinary Victa wheels are fine. Not that the concrete inserts are not a bad idea.

Jeff

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Hi Jeff,
I have been experimenting with these wheels because I have hundreds of wheels here with broken/no inserts. I have about half filled the wheels with styrene balls (bean bag) then put in a layer of concrete mix about 10mm thick and then put a 2mm layer of ridge pointing adhesive. Without the adhesive the concrete cracked on the front right hand wheel. I just put the ridge coating on the wheels last week and haven't tried to see how they last. I have to find some jungle type yard/grass to give them a good bashing around to see how they stand up to it

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Hi Norm

I wonder how Builders Bog would go instead of the concrete
Thin layers of concrete usually crack
Maybe reinforce with some fine metal mesh

Your wheels look quite good
Pretty much undetectable.Not sure how they will last
Tilepoint is a good idea and seems to be slightly flexible.

Maybe the rubberised ceramic tile adhesive might be worth a try.


Jeff

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Hi Jeff,
I had thought about the resaflex adhesive. I have made up a front wheel without the concrete just the tile adhesive I want to use that on a front right wheel and see how it stands up, the Victa wheels just look so bad with the insert missing. Once you have cut some grass the wheels get grass and a green tinge to them and it is very hard to notice they are concrete. Unless you knew you would never notice

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Hi Norm and Jeff

I was thinking body filler or fibreglass filler ages ago but that would not be cost effective.

Not sure about tile adhesive ,if it will stay together in a big lump, stud adhesive is strong stuff that
stays together in big lumps. Got to be some sort of cheap compound that would work.


Cheers
Max.

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Hi Max,
Stud adhesive may work it is strong and still flexible enough to take a stone impact and should be fairly light. I think it would smooth off well enough. And you certainly can't pick up a set of reasonable Victa wheels for $15 and a tub of that would fix many sets of wheels. Another alternative might be black silicone

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What about Selleys Space Invader expanding cellulose foam? It's closed cell so is sandable and paintable.
Some trial and error will be needed to work out the right size bead to apply so you don't end up with too much excess to file back.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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Hi Norm, Max & MF

A couple of these would be worth a try. Certainly the Blue stuff and maybe the foam
Some of these products do not like petrol. Might be an issue in case of spills or float needle issues. Concrete would be fine and the tilepoint should keep it together


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I'm putting the wheels on a full crank I have here in the morning and my grandson is going to give them a workout on some long grass that hasn't been cut for quite a while. See how they stand up. One concern I have with the stud adhesive is that the blue colour will probably start to show through once the stones etc start hitting it. Maybe the stud adhesive with a smear of black silicone over it might work. Has to be an answer somewhere

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Hi Norm Mf and Jeff

Sometimes I mix in a little spray paint with epoxy glue and that works ok Norm to change the colour , maybe a little paint mixed with the stud adhesive may fix the colour problem if the wheels that are done with the tile pointing filler don't last.

Another thing I was thinking but don't know how good it would last is to melt down plastic drink bottles
and plastic fill the wheels. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=How+to+Melt+Plastic+Bottles+for+Molding


Plastic Pellets another possibility https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Polymor...t-62-C-Polycaprolactone-PCL/273400572908

Not sure how many wheels this liquid plastic would repair https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Smooth-Cast-Semi-Rigid-Rotocast-Trial-Kit-900gmSC65D/292253474297

Cheers
Max.

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G'day MW, NK and JFB,

we're going for cheap right?
Scrunched up paper jammed in the cavity followed by the cheapest setting compound you can get, then some sort of thick black paint or other compound you can apply by brush, mini roller or pressure pack.

It shouldn't be this arduous. I think common cement was never destined to work in hindsight.
Whatever compound it is, it must be considered, cheap and flex a bit too, not be rigid.

Maybe tin donuts attached by screws??


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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Few more Victa's on Face book

Might need a bit of spare space in the shed.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplac...lace_search&referral_story_type=post


mich

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He has a good supply of parts to flog off. Looks like the wheels alone would fetch more than the job lot of complete mowers.
Just add postage.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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