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Solman Offline OP
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Hi guys I got a Scott Bonnar edger and I'm hoping to restore it.

Here are some pictures

I have issues with the engine starting. It used to run but now no luck. The spark plug is not generating a spark even after I gave it a good clean with wire brush.

I have another engine from a 45 reel mower but not sure if they the same motor, or should I just restore the motor I got.

Here are pictures of the motor...

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Solman Offline OP
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I'm also after various parts to get this project running, if someone could point me in the direction for these parts that would be great

I need filter and plug for existing motor also

I'm after a new one of these

[Linked Image]

I notice that the plate holding the blades the holes are worn out a bit should I replace it?

[Linked Image]

The bolts themselves are flogged out so I will replace these, are probably adding to the blades being a bit "sloppy"

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Also the belt needs replacing

[Linked Image]

Can anyone confirm that this belt is the same?Ebay belt

Thanks guys

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Hello Solman
Many thanks for the great hi-red images!

I do not think this machine has had a lot of work.

You should be able to source parts.
The original engine will need inspection, and it can be
easily converted to electronic ignition.

For straight-line edging, the steel blade jobs do the best work.
The SB edger was a quality design.

Please let us know about progress.

Cheers
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Jack

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Hi Solman

You can still get serviceable replacement parts for those engines but I have noticed alot of mower shops are no longer keeping them in stock. Those older Briggs are good engines and easy to work on, as CyberJack mentioned you could change the ignition coil from the old points system to electric. If you have some knowledge on the ignition system you could try and clean the old points and check the gap, the other main problem I find with these old engines not getting a spark is that the main high voltage wire that connects to the spike at the end of the boot doesn't make contact and needs to be re spiked through the rubber insulation making contact with the wire inside the insulated rubber.
As for the blade holder it looks worn out as the holes are supposed to be D shaped so the bolts lock in and don't spin. Blade plate and bolt kit are available as replacement new parts.

Good luck with the restoration hope to see more progress on your project.

Cheers

B_S


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Thanks guys for the replies. I've managed to source all the parts I need.... For now lol. Just waiting for them to arrive.

I'm interested in doing the points to electronic conversion, from What I read it's a more reliable system. But I'm not sure on what parts I need, from what I seen I need a new coil from a newer motor than mine. Can anyone help me on what I should search for? Like a part number or something? Is there any other parts needed to do the conversion?

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But I'm not sure on what parts I need, from what I seen I need a new coil from a newer motor than mine
Hello Solman
Briggs' Magnetron ignition was retro-fittable to earlier engines.
The coil does not need replacing to do that.

I think there would be many YouTube clips on that.

Hope this helps.
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Jack


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It would be interesting to try an ignition module from a Powertorque to see if it would work on a Briggs

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Started working on the edger the last couple of days

Spare parts arrived last week

I then proceeded to tear down the unit and sand the parts back to bare metal then prime ready for paint

Ready to start painting.... Which if your hoping for original I'm sorry to say but you will be very disappointed 😂

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Hi Solman

Looking forward to seeing the progress and outcome.
Loooks like you have your parts sorted out, are you replacing the bearings inside the blade shaft? Worth doing while it's all apart as to replace them later on you have to remove the whole leaver setup again which is almost tearing the complete machine down.
Can't wait to see the colour you chose.

Cheers

B_S


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Originally Posted by Bon _Scott
Hi Solman

Looking forward to seeing the progress and outcome.
Loooks like you have your parts sorted out, are you replacing the bearings inside the blade shaft? Worth doing while it's all apart as to replace them later on you have to remove the whole leaver setup again which is almost tearing the complete machine down.
Can't wait to see the colour you chose.

Cheers

B_S

Are you referring to the bearings in this part?

[Linked Image]

I totally overlooked these... Do you need to press these in because I don't really have a way of pressing the bearings in. How does one determine bearing sizes/models?

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Hi Solman

Yes there are 2 bearings in that part which sit inside where the blade goes on the shaft. There is a spring clip on the inside that needs to be squeezed inwards to remove the clip to allow access for the bearings to be removed. The bearings can be tapped out with care from the opposite end once the clip is removed but you need to be carefully not to crack the cast aluminium by using to much force. I can't remember the bearing numbers off hand but if you look through my thread on my edger restoration I have made reference of the bearing numbers otherwise the numbers are stamped on the side of the bearing.
As to installing the new bearings I placed the bearing in position with a small amount of grease around the bearing socket and used a timber padded carpenters vice to squeezed the bearings in. Verry quick and easy using the vice. There's also a third bearing on the belt tensioner as well which is the same size as the other two in the blade shaft.

Cheers

B_S


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Did some work on the edger last couple of days.

Painted the frame

[Linked Image]

The colour is quantum grey from Aston Martin, yes the James bond car colour. See the 12 year old inside me still thinks his super cool lol.

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I then rebuilt it with a freshly painted motor today.

I don't have many pictures of the motor just the finished product

Rebuilding

And then finished product very happy with the results

I wanted to run it today but I've got no oil for it just yet will fight the crowds tomorrow for some!

Merry Christmas all!

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One more 😂

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Hi Solman and B_S,

Looks really good, nice to see something a tad different, I guess engine decals would finish it off nicely apart from a bit of oil, but who really needs oil anyway I always say wink

If I may offer a bit of advice here prior to you starting it, the exhaust director that's fitted onto the muffler with two screws could be rotated one more position clockwise so as to avoid exhaust being aimed directly at the paintwork and rather have it go upwards on a 45 degree missing it all and saving that wonderful work from being damaged prematurely.

BTW if I may ask how are you loading your images on to your thread here ?

Cheers,
BB.



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Hi Solman,looks good,just wondering why u have the throttle cable comining over the top like that instead of out under the chassis like off the production line.

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Originally Posted by Bonnar_Bloke
Hi Solman and B_S,

Looks really good, nice to see something a tad different, I guess engine decals would finish it off nicely apart from a bit of oil, but who really needs oil anyway I always say wink

If I may offer a bit of advice here prior to you starting it, the exhaust director that's fitted onto the muffler with two screws could be rotated one more position clockwise so as to avoid exhaust being aimed directly at the paintwork and rather have it go upwards on a 45 degree missing it all and saving that wonderful work from being damaged prematurely.

BTW if I may ask how are you loading your images on to your thread here ?

Cheers,
BB.

Yeah I was gonna order some decals just to finish it off, just seems like it's missing something without them.

Good idea about the exhaust, I'll move that now 😊

I'm using imgbb as an image host then just placing a direct link in the thread.

Have a good new years all!

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Originally Posted by Bruban
Hi Solman,looks good,just wondering why u have the throttle cable comining over the top like that instead of out under the chassis like off the production line.

To be honest it's how it was when I bought it, I assumed that's how it normally is. But looking at other pictures now it seems your right that they do run underneath the motor. Is the cable fixed off somewhere underneath? If so where exactly?

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Hi Solman

Finished product looks good, I think you will find your blades are back to front. These edgers are deceiving as the rotation of the blade runs anti clockwise looking at the engine from behind the handlebars, the reason for this is because the engines are mounted front to back of the edger with the blade on the right hand side as opposed to most edgers which engines are mounted front facing forward with the blade on the left hand side. I would be guessing that 90% of model 38' are running blades the wrong way as its natural to the eye to install them this way. I'm not sure if this is a GA Spares mistake or if original blades were like this but it seems a bit strange that the flat edge of the blade faces the outer side of the guard while the sharpened beveled edge faces the inside of the guard
To this day I can't really understand the blade setup so if anyone else can shed some light on this it would be greatly appreciated as even I had the blades on the same as Solman at first which will only send the back of the blade plunging into the edge first while the beveled side follows it out last wearing it out against the concrete, only way to avoid this is to push the edger on the grass so the flat side of the blade is against the concrete, pushing the edger smoothly on the concrete will wear the blade out.

First photo shows the correct way with the flat side of blade against concrete while edger is pushed on the grass, second picture show the wrong way with edger being pushed on the concrete wearing beveled edge of blade, also note blade in correct picture will rotate up out of the edge on the right hand side and the opposite blade will rotate down into the edge on the left side of the picture

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Cheers.

B_S

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