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#100813 12/09/19 12:59 AM
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I have discovered mice in the house. One has taken residence in a cavity under the kitchen cupboard ans another has found a gap under the door frame and can be heard late at night crunching away in my bedroom.
Our cat can hear them and occasionally looks under furniture for them.
I am in two minds on whether to set the traditional trap and kill them or buy a humane trap that cages them and then dump them somewhere. Twice they have found my chocolates and helped themselves to a corner and I have found droppings in my bedroom drawers. I want them gone any way I can. I am concerned about making them somebody else's problem so is it better I just kill them and be done with it? I don't want to kill them as they just want to survive like us, but you can say the same for cockroaches!
I don't even like killing them.


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Relocation of vermin and pests is a waste of time and ultimately becomes someone else's problem. Kill them!

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Just bait them MF, or get a better cat. I have a rat problem here from time to time because the people at the rear of my property have chooks and another neighbour has birds. As soon as my dogs start sniffing in a certain spot I put out a bait and usually within a few days the dogs stop looking in that area

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Hi all

Traditional traps the way to go, baits work but they can crawl into impossible places to get at and die and your left with a bad smell for ages, 10 times worse if a rat is involved. If you have mice in the house you probably don't have roaches, they love them.
I don't like knocking things off either but they are vermin and removing a couple won't put them on the endangered species list.

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Hi bigted, NormK, wce,
I took bigted's opinion on board and set a trap near the back of the refrigerator where I had seen one several times. After about 10 minutes I looked at the trap and found it had shifted and the food had been removed without going off! I used the same chocolate with pineapple flavoured filling one had attacked the day before.
I reset the trap and made sure the pin was right at the end this time and gingerly placed it down.
I hadn't reached the bathroom when I heard it go off. I disposed of the mouse down the loo.
The second trap I set in my bedroom hasn't gone so far, even though I have seen one where I placed it.


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MF,

WOW !!! You must have a plague to get one that quick, as I always say where there's one there's more.

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Good job MF

Even though its not especially nice to have to end them in a trap, its much nicer than days of being poisoned by ratsak, or the old 44 gallon drum method.

Might want to put a trap in your shed before they start having a meal of your victa's fuel line, primer bulb, etc

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Nothing wrong with a good old bit of Ratsak in the throw sachets. I just leave one on a shelf in the garage and when it disappears I put another one there

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Ratsak is pure unadulterated cruelty and is banned in all western countries except good old here for that reason -so I was told and not by Brian lol.
I wish they'd invent a trap for vermin of the human kind.


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MF,
now I guess you will say the use of Mixo and Calicivirus on rabbits is cruel, and then I guess you don't want to use flyspray on flies. I don't think rabbits cause diseases to humans unlike rats a flies but rabbits cause severe destruction to farms. I guess if somebody came up with something to kill cane toads then that would be considered cruel as well.There is a reason why things are classed as vermin and need to be eradicated

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Fly spray doesn't make the fly endlessly thirsty until they burst from continuously drinking. No comparison.






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Not sure if you can still get 1080 to bait foxes and wild dogs

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1080 is still used in Australia, Israel, Japan, Korea, Mexico, and New Zealand. It is banned in most countries, including the US, where it was outlawed in the early 1970s because of civilian deaths.

I've used ratsak before but it always just got eaten and I never saw any dead rats,I have heard the little rodents are
smart enough to eat enough poison to get a feed but they don't eat enough poison to kill them.

Traps usually work.





Cheers
Max.

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Here they have change what we are allow to put for poison to kill rats and mice because they claimed it was killing other wildlife the consumed the dead ones. Very aggravating that it takes a week or more to get rid of mouse as they bring their kin folks on later trips to the bait. I remember the days where one feeding was enough. But the chemical companies make more money giving it to humans as blood thinners as they on that path

I don't mind with the rats and mice much as long they stay out of my home and shop. What few that ran across the yard during the day don't have much of chance with my chickens. As for field rats I have been know to take them out with a .22 and feed them to my dogs. Much quicker death for the rat plus saves on dog food. The dogs died of old age and I haven't replaced them as I don't the time or patience to train them to leave the chickens alone.

Here rabbits are not really safe to eat any more due to virus that killing them. I use keep them thinned out during the winter months but that virus has nearly wiped them out here. It been 10 yrs and they are just now making a small comeback. I still finding dead rabbits from time to time.

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Some good traps in there Max, not sure if MF would be happy about drowning all those mice though
Hi AVB, rabbits are still here but not in the plague proportions that they were in before they introduced the calici virus. Mixo had run its race as many rabbits had become immune to it.
Max as a kid I remember seeing plowed strips across paddocks with 1080 laced carrot spread in them, I guess this was for rabbits but I think it was also getting a few birds as well

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Here's an interesting website I came across, by accident....
Just amazing how many pests we have her in Aus...
https://feralscan.org.au/mousealert/default.aspx
Have a look at the homepage, www.feralscan.org.au

speedy


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Hi Speedy,

You forgot a certain species that lives in a certain suburb here in Adelaide LOL !!

They're just called Feral's !

Cheers,
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Elizabeth?


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I just had a look at the mouse alert web page and Woy Woy did not get a mention as to having a mouse problem at the moment, only a couple of places in Aus are high on the list at the moment

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Now Now MF, no need to get all personal LOL !!


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NK that's good to hear.
B_B note the all important punctuation mark, but I doubt it's Glenelg!!


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It was interesting Norm how early on we had little health and safety laws and now we have many regulations
to abide by.

On farms I've used .22 caliber rat shot, up close it has no problem killing a rabbit.



A few more ways to get rid of mice.https://kitchenfunwithmy3sons.com/get-rid-of-mice/

Cheers
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Hi MF,

You got that right !

Cheers,
BB.


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Thanks for that Max, then I started watching them shooting rats with air rifles, they were using some very expensive rifles.They didn't seem to waste any shots and the dead rats counts were huge.

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Yep thanks to YouTube ,I've seen every which way to kill a mouse/rat ,except maybe a flame thrower. I saw the night vision
shooting of rats with air rifles fitted with laser scopes too Norm.

I have seen a shoe thrown at a mouse and the mouse died instantly upon impact.


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Mentioning the number kill in one shot. I have nine one time with one shot from a .22. Well kinda cheated on the one; she was about to give birth to 8 little chewers.

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Shooting them with a .22 is a bit expensive AVB.
Max, I can't believe they have rat shooters employed by pest exterminators, seems dumb to me when they could just use Ratsack as we do and we don't have rat problems here. Watching those night time videos I can't believe the extent of the rat problem in other countries. Be funny if somebody asked you what you did for a living and you replied "I'm a rat shooter" Hard to believe on one video they shot 250 rats in 2 hours and in that video every one was a head shot. In another video they weren't that fussed as long as they shot the rats. I was staggered at the quality of the guns they were using just to get rid of rats. The cost of those guns out here would be cost prohibitive

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Now my next issue is getting rid of possums that are driving my dog nuts and his barking is driving me nuts.

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A busy road will dispatch some. They have zero road sense.


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MF, I live in a court so no chance of them being skittled

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