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#100343 18/08/19 03:21 PM
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I have had 3 new plugs this week that failed work. They test fine out of the motor. 2 were in mowers that people have brought to me because they couldn't get their mower started and one I put in a Briggs while the owner was standing there. I'm thinking this must be some sort of record or is it just a sign of the way things are going. Worst part was one slasher I had fitted a PT on and put the new plug the owner had bought. Ran fine but the next day it wouldn't start. I drove to Werribee 2 hours each way to bring it home because I had no idea why it had stopped, all because of a stinking NGK spark plug. Sometimes I never learn.

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NGK or any other brand nowadays is just hit and miss. Companies couldn't give a rats over what they're doing and are just living off their past reputation.

Sadly reputations mean nothing these days.

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BB.


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NormK #100349 18/08/19 06:24 PM
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Hi BB,

And that is why I pay a max of a couple of dollars for spark plug, you have just as good a chance of them working as you do when you pay$7.50 for them. Once upon a time you got what you paid for but not anymore.

NormK #100350 18/08/19 07:16 PM
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Hi Norm and BB,

Are you sure Norm they are NGK plugs ,I see a lot of Chinese copies of NGK plugs these days.

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NormK #100351 18/08/19 07:29 PM
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Hard to tell Max, they were bought from a mower shop.

NormK #100353 18/08/19 07:37 PM
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Do they have NGK on the porcelain or just the plug number (BM6A) on the porcelain Norm.

The first image above are the Chinese NGK plugs.

NormK #100354 18/08/19 07:59 PM
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NGK on them Max, fake NGK plugs have been around for years and they are a very good copy, from memory the only way you could pick some of them was the slightly lighter yellow on the box the plug came in

NormK #100360 18/08/19 11:17 PM
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Hi All,
I've been using nothing but NGK plugs for a few years now and have never had a problem with them. I've tried using cheaper no name brand plugs and they were definitely hit and miss. As for price i was paying $20/box (10 plugs) for cheapies and pay $30/box for NGK through my local Repco dealer. Yes, $30, it took some negotiating but that's what i pay for BM6A or J19LM's. Champion plugs are marginally cheaper but i've lost confidence in them.

NormK #100362 18/08/19 11:40 PM
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I've yet to have a problem with genuine NGKs. I'm sure they're not perfect, but I'm yet to come across one.

The only Champion plugs I use are known, good old ones.

Have you tried Denso plugs Norm?


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Just wait until get some CMR 10 mm series. I had them to fail out of the box, cause misfiring, and even had one that causing a 2 cycle to diesel. But normally I don't much in the line plug failures.

Now the NGK that I separated from the metal shell they have been marked below the crimp ring on the ceramic body. I would have not known except I was making some pressure/vacuum adapters for testing crankcases.

NormK #100368 19/08/19 09:29 AM
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Bad plugs don't normally bother me, you expect them from time to time, but I have only looked at I think 4 mowers in the last week ( I only started looking at them last week post op because I was asked to see if I could get one going and that was a plug problem as well) and 3 of them suffered problems with brand new plugs not working, bit hard to believe.

NormK #100369 19/08/19 09:38 AM
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Norm,

That is something I have notice over the years that problems tend to come in groups as if they are manufacturing defects. Ten years not a single hydrostatic cooling fan problem and then 3 in a row this month. At least it not like the 50+ desktop calculators that I had to replace the CPU chips on due to an adding problem back in the early '80's.

So it is not hard to believe you had 3 new plugs to fail in short order.


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