Thanks for the effort carbymaster, much appreciated, we just have to live with some of the problems with these, just have to be very thankful that we have the viton tipped ones that have reduced the problem by 98%. It is one of the best improvements for the Victa 2 stroke ever. I believe probably 70 % of Victa 2 strokes have gone to an early grave due to faulty needles. 20% probably straight fueled and probably the remaining 10% just worn out, they too could have been repaired but cost prohibitive to any business trying to make money out of it. Different to us as we are conservationists just trying to save a species from extinction, see you can put a spin on anything.