VM I found a module sitting on the bench, no idea what it came off, the fact it was there means I had pulled it off something at some time, obviously thinking it didn't work, so I tried it on a full crank Victa 24 and it fired straight up. I will pull a Powertorque module off and try it on a full crank if I get a chance in the next few days..If I have an old points Briggs here I will try a module on that and see if it works just to let you know