Thanks Jack all good now. There must be some way that Greenfield can move from its dealer network that is obviously not promoting their push mowers. I think contractors go and buy their Hondas from the dealers as MF said and the majority of the public either go to Bunnings or ebay if they are looking for a mower. I doubt that many Joe Public would go to a mower shop to buy a push mower because these days they are seen as suppliers to contractors who have their mind fairly set on what they want and therefore the public see these machines to be out of their price range. There are plenty of dealers selling all brands of new machines on ebay and I think Greenfield should talk to their dealer network about keeping the rideons and push mowers apart.