thanks bruce and gmax for your replies
i tried.....god knows i tried. ive got a left hook like you wouldnt belive from pulling the start cord for so long
in the end it was off to the local repairer who kindly offered assistance and got it running
he also did say to check the needle and make sure it was clean however i think i bent the rocker arm that lifts that needle
how straight or bent should that arm be?
the problem being that now i cannot get the engine to idle at all
the guy at the shop mentioned i might have a idle problem as he couldnt get the idle to run smooth
i can run it enough to do the edges but it wont idle and stay running
suggestions?