thanks jonsey ill see what i can come up with i have found the right socket for sale but it,s $40 from ripco and i have got a can off rost off ice the forklift mechanic at work said it works great for getting siezed up nuts off and no he doesnt have 1-1/4 the largest his got is 1"
also for those that need to remove the base plate or starter and need to stop the engine from turning over the best way i have found is to remove the head turn the motor so it,s at the bottom of its stroke and then stuff the cylinder with rags and then put the head back on it will lock the motor up you can also do this with rope by removing the spark plug and feeding it in though the hole dont ask me where i was told this i cant remember but it works i used the same trick to remove the base plate on my day to day mower and that was on tight