Just done a quick run around Pancake.The two I have access to...One is definately a Tiger as Blumbly says,But it has a victa badge that seems to fit and was on it when he bought it.(funny thing is ive seen this mower many times and never looked at the engine.lols)The other is a late model 5 Victa series no AAA.....But has a Hg Palmer badge,Always thought it had a victa one to.I checked my notes and mine was unbadged with Std victa series no of AC...Ive found 3 others,One on here a very old post is a Tiger,another is an older ebay link I bid on a while back which was also std victa serial no...Hmmmm.While I know this mower fairly well I was never 100% sure of its engine,always thinking it just a victa 125 since id seen more of thes on them.I always knew it wasnt in the victa series line up.So since 3 tigers have been confirmed and their rarity I guess this may truly be the engine they came with.And since the base is that of the handful of Hg Palmer 7Fs ive come across then im gonna go with that:)"HG PALMER with a Victa Tiger 125cc engine"...Please can anyone else confirm this to be accurate,I want another one to go with my 7F Vlliers Variant since it will be its dated twin:)Oh and to help Pancake with a 100% accurate name for his new mower..Lmao