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seanw
Mower:-

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picked it up for 30 dollars.
any info would be much appreciated


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looks like a good buy for $30, first one I've seen yay

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Hello seanw and bunyip

This is, unfortunately, a 'bitsa'.
It's an Australian 1950's Amplion chassis with 1950's & 1960's Victa engine, handles & bits.
Wheels are not original, of course.
The height adjustment knob should say 'Amplion'.

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Hope this helps.
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JACK

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Thanks Jack, maybe I should have looked less for id on the computer and actually look at the mower.
Going to see if it runs.
Thanks again Jack


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What a shame its not complete Amp frown

I would have given you more than Five times what you paid.

Looks like it has a good choke assy to....Thats at least your 30$ back if its a good original Smiley smile


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good score there nice price too lot of the things on it are worth at least what you paid for it each !
congrats

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Mmmmm I spy an early Roto 2 throttle control as well! Lols.

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a garage sale or was a tip find ? see if you can find the ex owner , might have some of the old engine and bits laying about or just hide it away , parts might turn up sooner or later smile still learning so when you get better it will make a nice little project for ya

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I bought it from an antique shop, what would make it complete, a pullstarter? It runs really rough. carby change should fix the prob. worst old fuel i have met in this one. would it be worth doing up??


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not as it is , its a bitsa right now , victa engined Amplion ? ask at the shop , if they know they can contact the ex owner for you , its the fun part of tracking stuff down .
store the base and related parts and use the engine , or break it for parts maybe .
clean out the carb , fresh fuel n try it again , just bowl off and clean out the jet , no real need yet too do more than that get out all the old stuff and nice fresh fuel maybe 1st tank a little touch extra oil because you dont know how long it didnt run for (just a couple of drops , not toooooo much)
than shelve it until you figure out what your gunna do with it

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Hello all Contributors.

Sean, the experts have spoken.
Bitsas have potential. HT6 has pointed out the valuable Victa stuff.
I agree with Bunyip - a good buy. vccomm has great advice as to repair & provenance.

Amplions are not well documented at all.
The 'Amp' in Amplion is the signifier - they were a British amplifier and speaker company.
The Australian Amplion company was probably closer to a 'franchise' of the British company.

Whilst Amplion (Australasia) sold the parent products, they engaged in much more.
For one thing, they manufactured engines under that name; they also manufactured mowers.
I suspect they were, largely, a branding company.

Your machine would have, most likely, had a Hurricane engine.
Styled along the Victa 'toe-cutter' lines, this lawnmower sold in the mid-late fifties.
It is collectable, so the chassis could form the basis of a restored Amplion.

I hope to write about this brand at some point in the fullness of time.
[p.s. Sean, I would appreciate a close-up of the height knob]

Hope this helps.
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Well done Sean and thanks to all for the info on Amplion.

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you should hear it when revved flat out its unreal


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Thanks Sean

It matches a file photo from another member.

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Youd be hard pressed finding parts for completion Sean.

Ive only been able to acquire 1 complete, an engine and few parts in 10 years.

This model Amplion only came with the X coded Hurricane 125, and Amplion" marked Red bakelite wheels.

You will need bars tank engine and wheels to complete.

In 20 years ive probably only ever seen a handful of completes and even less parts. Engines come up a little more often.

Its Shares vast similarities with the Hurricane" Rotary of the same period, but is Even more rare.

A fair score in many ways, but as A Restoration Original? I wish you luck....:)


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seanw
The trouble and strife recons i should put it on ebay with a minimum of 50. As i have no ebay experience i dont know. I do have too many mowers and i cant buy more parts untill i sell one.or wait 2 weeks. i am stuck with primer. no noise tonight. will weld something [Linked Image]
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thanks


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Id sell the choke and throttle seperately if they are good.
Keep the Engine Assy for a spare or a utility.
And sell the complete Amplion base/axles seperately....more enticing as it wont be to bad on freight for a keen Amp/hurricane collector.

Or as you said Sell it complete.

Just my 2 cents....

If the Choke assy and throttle control are in good nick and genuine ill give you a 50$ for those. PM me with condition if you decide to go that way.






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Voila ,................. yep I'm still around.

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how sweet does THAT look !!!! great looking thing man took a while ? seems young seanw has got a way to go

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A long long way


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you will get there mate , no hurry at all ya never know what might show up

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Sean , you'll get there , here is another " bitsa " like yours.....

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Looks pretty cool in any case.

Is that one yours Al? A bit more complete than Seans, as its only missing its engine, but its period styling at least.

What serial is on that Roto engine? Its not a model 1 case is it?

Anyways I love the Blue....:)

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Yes, both are mine , still have them although I am currently downsizing my collection , have re-homed eight in the last month .
I did not have a Hurricane engine to put on it but the Rotomo was a spare so used it , no.30951 so I guess a model 2.
The green one is all original, bought it off the original owner , you can see it running on you tube under ...megaalwil. ( I don't know how to link , not much good on these 'puter things )
Cheers
Al

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Cool...

Yes Ive seen the Green one, shes a beauty, and for sure the engine is an early 2:)

Yeah I noticed you've been selling. Was looking at the jetfast actually.

If your going to list any model 1 parts or completes please send me a PM or give me a heads up, so I can keep an eye out on the Bay.

Is the Blue Amp one of the Pieces you are going to be Selling Al?

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Do you still have this mower Sean?


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seanw
now after all that i need your help

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i was going to just try and join another sparkplug lead too see at least if i have spark( which i doubt) then i will take the flywheel off and have a good looksee.

i looked into the bore with a torch and the domed top piston? was flat from crap. the bore and the piston and rings looked great. i dont want to mess this one up lads.
someone had drilled a wheel out and sleeved the axle

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why does the motor have holes for a cowl to be attached.
i have seen this before

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what would be the best way to bring this machine back to life(without using a hammer?)thanks for putting up with my long post,
WHAT COLOUR.
sean
and one more question, WHAT COLOUR?

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Depends on how much water has got in through the inlet port. I'd be surprised if you had spark, points would need a clean

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These sold a while back for $100 I think, would have been a pretty good score!
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