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Hi Max and Jack,

Same base that’s in the advert dated October 69 so perhaps the two tone tank is a little later or yours has had a replacement tank fitted at some time.

I have found the article, a promo for Boans Dept Stores

https://primotipo.com/tag/boans-department-store/

If a date can be gleaned from this somehow it would very informative. Update!

The pictures are dated 1968, taken in Boans Store carpark in Morley WA, must be late 1968 to tie in with the Concorde Advert

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Hi Paul and Jack,

Some more great images and info. Paul and Jack.

I've looked at the Mower Race image and It looks late 1969 mowers to me.

Glad to here any info. or thoughts that say otherwise.

Cheers
Max.

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Hi all,

This makes more sense now, the library listed the mower images as 1968 and the image of the Turner Concorde
was 1969.

That was why I asked for any opinions on the image.

This image from the library clearly shows a earlier Victa with the earlier handle bars so that may explain where the date
of 1968 came from.

Cheers
Max.

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Hi Max, Paul and others,
That's a great image there, Max.

Yep, many images are 'about' - even from museums and libraries.
I have had no luck in positivity dating the images.

Cheers
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Jack

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G'day again,

This is a recent find that I am happy about.
It sets the record straight about when Turner pulled out of
mower making ... early August, 1970.

The article confirms other research I have made, and my claiming Turner
left on a high note of their mower making adventure ...

[Linked Image]

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G'day Jack ,Paul and the rest,

That's a great find Jack, it also confirms Sunbeam did not sell the Fastcut before 1967.

Sunbeam entered the mower market in spring of 1967.

I did notice in the mower race image that Paul uploaded here, the Victa Corvette did not have the black air filter
housing from the 1970 model Corvette.

Finding Turner images and information dated 1970 is difficult.

Cheers
Max.

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G'day Max, Paul and all,

I have to hold back my thoughts on Sunbeam here.
I am biting my tongue.

I agree, Turner information at this critical time is scarce.
This 1970 article is so revealing and provocative!

Cheers
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Jack




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Gidday Jack ,Paul and everyone,

Yes we know that date of 1967 is not completely correct because the 1960 electric Sunbeam was
made in Australia .

I know the Sunbeam Lawnkeeper was very similar in design to the Victa mower and your thinking Jack was
Victa made the Sunbeam Lawnkeeper. This made sense because of similarities between Victa and
the Sunbeam Lawnkeeper.

I was thinking because Victa had a patent for their handle bars and Sunbeam had a patent
for their handle bars ,this would possibly explain Sunbeam making the Lawnkeeper.

I did see a couple of Sunbeam factories in different states and noticing different castings of the
Sunbeam Lawnkeeper ,made me think the Lawnkeeper was made in NSW and Victoria.

All speculation on my part about where the Lawnkeeper was made,just wondered if that
was a plausible speculation or not.

I was reading in 1960 Turner had a company policy to only make the best, the Turner carpenter's plane
in 1960 was made by Turner acquiring the patterns from Pope,Turner redesigned the plane and
had a break through in design adding the red cellulose acetate handle, previous handles were wood.

Cheers
Max.


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Hi Max and Jack,

Just a lovely sign that was posted today on another site.

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Hi ODK Members,

I picked these Turner oil and fuel containers up off EBay last week, lucky me I was the only bidder 😀 I just need the matching funnel if anyone has one spare. The containers are in great condition for their age especially the fuel one.

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Hi Paul, Max and all
I have recorded the earlier 'traditional' Turner cans, but had
no idea just how advanced Turner was with their later plastic containers.

Many thanks for the record.
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Good Evening ODK Members,

Happy to have found a catcher for my Turner Model A, it’s missing it’s grass flap but I’m pretty confident of being able to make one. Happy days 😀

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I did see a couple of Sunbeam factories in different states and noticing different castings of the
Sunbeam Lawnkeeper ,made me think the Lawnkeeper was made in NSW and Victoria.

All speculation on my part about where the Lawnkeeper was made,just wondered if that
was a plausible speculation or not.
Hi Max and Paul
I was a bit slow on the uptake here ... Max, credible speculation in my books. smile
I think Victa and Sunbeam were not close enough for the Lawnkeeper to have been
made in any Victa factory.

But I do feel the Lawnkeeper is proof that Victa and Sunbeam had an undisclosed
association before Sunbeam's 1970 takeover.

Secret deals were, after all, in Victa's DNA.

Paul, I can't help but appreciate - now - just how handsome the Turners were.
Victa seemed to have a classical modern style in the 1960s ... but more
conservative than Turner.

Turner seemed to comprehend the zeitgeist of the space race and the Moon landings!
If Victa and Sunbeam had a degree of collaboration, I'm sure Turner
remained a staunch competitor with its nemesis, Victa Mowers!

Brilliant thread and work by Paul and Max.

Thank you
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Jack

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Gidday Jack and Paul

Just found this image of a Turner Concorde 4 stroke and thought I would add it to
the ODK records.


Regards
Max.

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Hi Max and all

Thanks for posting the image Max, that looks to be one model my nos Turner catcher will fit.

cheers
wce

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Hello ODK Members,

I have just received this Turner price list from July 1969 and the Model A is on there

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Just need to find a 1970 price list if one exists.

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G'day Paul, Max, wce and all

This is a great addition to the record!
It is interesting - but not exceptional - that prices changed with
the new year, but new models arrived in spring.

Paul, It is sensational that you have identified the A70 - the mysterious Turner.
Maybe, the 'A' was the designation for the new decade's models.

1970 would be the final year of Turner lawnmower selling.

Brilliant!
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Jack

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Hi Jack,Paul WCE and mower people

Paul said "Just need to find a 1970 price list if one exists."

The 1st of July 1969 price list is the 1970 model price list.

If there was a next price list it would be out in July 1970 for the 1971 model mowers,I would
think seeing that Turner ceased production of mowers in early August 1970 that no
1971 model mowers were made meaning no price list for July 1970 for new mower models.

Just clearing up any confusion here and reiterating that the price list from Paul has the last model
mowers Turner made before ceasing production.


Cheers
Max.

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G'day Max and Paul
I would think that is spot on, but ...

The announcement date presents - to me - as a strategic date...
that there would be no 1970-71 designs.

Although, I see no reason why a revised price list could not occur in July, 1970.
It just means the 1969 models (for 1970 year) would be sold at a revised price
for the last Turners of 1970 and 'while stocks last', for 1971.

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Jack

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G'day Jack and Paul + All,

So from what I can see the Rocket on the front of the base was not on the 1969 model Valiant that was released
for sale in 1968.



Cheers
Max.

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