OutdoorKing Repair Forum Forums Restoring, Customising and Modifying Tech Talk Pope Ezi Start 2-Stroke.

Here's an interesting old one I found today, I haven't worked out much about it yet, but the metal catcher tells me it's a bit older.

Anyone know much about Pope?

Tecumseh motor i think.


Ive one here that similar. Mine looks older.
https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showpic&id=1737


Motor is different. Its looking for a home.
The pulley is gone off the top.


Ive got a feeling that they might have been a long lived but not common design. Ive seen a couple of orange ones and at a glance they could nearly be early 80's looking with Briggs motors. Dunno, could be tricked by condition.

Wow, your sleeping as well as I am!

I'll have to see if I can get a good look for a serial or engine manufacturer next time I duck out for a smoke (soon) hopefully I can get this old girl u and running, It's in bloody good nick, I'll say that much!

So is the mower looking for a home, or are you searching for a base to re-home the engine?

It's still ugly.

I actually don't mind the look of this one, nice classic look!

Nah if you want the pope ive got here your welcome too it.

I wont use or fix it.

Only thing i would use it for would be on top of a pole out the front. Im sure i can find something else.

Pope always had a good name up this way, I don't mind them at all. Getting back a bit now though, I'd be thinking in the 70's.

I'd tend to agree with Tecumseh, the carby layout looks it anyway. Even the old Kirby / Tecumseh had the same design.

You are sad Ty.

I might have a good pole mower here for you Bob!

I'm hoping to clean this and the Sunbeam up tomorrow, I have High hopes for how this one will come out, the engine also seems good, perhaps a clean up of the carby and she might go.

I had a look for markings on the engine, all i found was the number 161, I'll get some photo's up of the engine when I can.

Dont stress Ty, im not light on for up the pole cantidates.

Do you have a video of this pole mower?Does she (I'm assuming it's a she) wear some sexing clothing? Wow I want to see this.

Not to drag up old threads but...

That engine is a Wisconsin "robin" 2stroke... An american made, short lived engine... You were right on the fact that that's a tech carby tho... Tech made the carbs for Wisconsin...

They run well.... and have lots of power.


Kori

Something different there Ty. Good to see!
My old man loved the rotary valve version of the pope. (I hated the %*&% thing with its wheel adjusters) I have only ever seen one of these and it didn't run and that was over 20yrs ago, good score!

Now that I know a bit more about it, I'm very excited to get this one up and running, especially considering the condition it's in.

Hopefuly some time during he next few weeks I will have time to look at it.

So I't a rotary valve engine?

Iv'e not worked on one before, so this should be quite interesting, and thankyou for the engine ID Kori, There was something about the crank case that just didn't seem like techumseh to me.

No infact I'm almost positive it has reeds... Tho I haven't seen one in awhile...

They run like tops when they are going... but they sound like crap (rattle clang bang slam backfire etc.) But that's normal...

Pull the starter in short yanks, because they like to kickback...

The gas mix should be 15:1 don't use 20:1 in it (overheat.

But it's an interesting engine none the less..


Kori

Ty, the Pope rotary valve 2 stroke engine was from the late 1950s as I recall. I'm not really sure, but I thought Pope may have made it themselves in Australia. The engines had a certain popularity on very early go karts here.

Also, as far as I can tell from internet reports, in general the Wisconsin Robin engines are Japanese Robin (i.e. Subaru/Fuji Heavy Industries), sold by Teledyne in the US under their Wisconsin brand. Most Robins are 4 stroke, but they also made 2 strokes. Fuji registered the Robin brand for their industrial engines in 1960, and made a sales agreement for the US with Wisconsin in 1971. You can read the history here:
http://www.subaru-robin.jp/what/text2/jigyoubu.htm

For interest, see this workshop manual:
http://www.jackssmallengines.com/pdf_documents/robin%20engines/Manuals/TTP30084.pdf

It doesn't seem to be the same as yours in detail, but may be similar.

So, you have a very decent engine there. Fuji/Robin is the world's fourth largest engine manufacturer, and Japan's second largest.

I've seen Pope engines... they were and still as far as I sold as tru-cut ( ) That one has a later model robin but they are made by pope and as far as I know you still can....



[EDIT]: It doesn't appear they are made by pope anymore... shame...


Kori

The Australian Pope company was founded in 1925 in Adelaide. It mainly made various garden products, but added the rotary valve lawnmower in 1959. These days they are owned by Toro and probably don't make much at all, though they still have a range of garden products from various sources.
http://www.popeproducts.com.au/about-us

Yeah, I knew that they were made by Toro, But I didn't know how old they were! woh!

And I looked at the Tru-cut website, and they have much degraded...

Now there mowers have welded square bases, and 4stroke briggs' engines probably made in china...

I remember, back when they had 1-1/2 inches (50mm) thick cast alloy bases and 2stroke engines..... long time gone....

Kori