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Oh yeah, Congrats on your 1000 and promotion too!

Cheers.

The deck is my spare Mobilco one, the Jacobsen deck (because it looks cool, lol), is now a part of something else........ Time will reveal all! hahaha

You can see by the pics how I have achieved approximately the same wheelbase as the ride on, yes, centre to centre, as per my sketch.

The forward of the two vertical pivots is for left and right arc's, (I placed it here to retain the same track when cornering as it was previous), the rear of the two vertical pivots allows for about 5 deg radial movement in each direction from centre.

As far as a support for when it is seperated, a simple landing leg is all it needs. Once I have achieved a more succesful tow / hitch arrangement than my original design (I still prefer it actually), I can then locate a landing leg in a place that will not interfere with any of the slasher's operation. Electrical controls, utilising the ride on battery, not it's own battery (as I suggested earlier), can well be an option and not standard equipment. It would take nothing to wire it up, even with a 100 amp plug for the starter cable. I've used it quite a lot without electric controls, and without hassle.

I don't believe that the way I have the towing boom tow points, and the centre tow point to be an issue. Either in the previous design, or this one. It simply doesn't take much to get off and manhandle to a diferent position.

Bear in mind also, one of my aims is to make this able to be towed on either the right or left side. This is why I've designed the latter version the way I have. I know the pics don't show it, but it works exactly the same on the right hand side.

A little on the 1755 Rancher....
Bought it for $80 without a cutting deck or the parts that go along with it, (wasn't running and had one flat tyre), so I have fitted up a deck off a 11050 Rancher 2. I had to manufacture all of the operating mechanisms myself from scratch, and it works just fine. Instead of a belt coming from the engine and driving a pulley at the front, which in turn drives the deck, my setup drives a pulley mounted on the underside of the chassis, directly below the seat which drives the deck, and the deck drive throw out mechanism is operated by a spring loaded, stainless steel, push pull cable in a stainless steel sheath. The seat is an old office chair, and believe me, it's a hell of lot more comfortable. Other than that, she's just a good ol' workhorse.

There's a reason for the way I do things, and the pulley mounted below the seating position?
There's future plans. I've made it so the deck is rigid, but can come off in literally 5 minutes. Two bolts and three R clips!

You are very good at making your stuff I see, good work there, I had a rancher 2 once, the thing was very sad so I took the I/C motor off it and sold it for $50.

Thanks Joe, I take pride in what I do, and I don't like doing things by halves. The 11050 deck is a bit cancerous, but it suits what I do with it just fine.

That deck looks good from the left side on mine I had a hole big enough my boot could fit through it

hahaha, the left side of this one has a big patch on it. I guess they're getting on a bit now, so it's understandable. My oldie will come back to life one day, watch out for it.

Cheers.

Thnks i didnt even notice id been promoted. lol


Greg, ive got a Rancer here with a twin spindle alloy deck. Its pretty busted up. Any interest in using the hardware off this deck to remake a deck in steel for your Rancher??



Back to the KISS principal.
Ive got 2 old F26 Deutchers here. Horizontal shaft motors to a vertical deck, belt turns 90deg.
Your tow behind could be powered by a new chinese 5.5HP electric start horizontal shaft Chonda.
Take the starter pannel off the engine, use a 5 core, feed the wires in through some polly pipe as conduit, extend it up to beside the seat. Plugs into an Anderson plug or similar at the mower to power it up.


Considering a half decent 5HP mower fetches over $200, Paying $200 for a brand new e-start motor makes good sense.



Back too the Deutcher. The deck on those is pretty simple but effective. Something similar for what you are making could be an idea too.

Thanks again Bob. Would you be able to put up some pics? Sounds interesting.

Dont have any pics, will have to take some.
Neither are assembled and theres crap stacked on them.



A while back a mate of mine picked up a whirlwind shasher at a garage sale for me for $75. I sent it down to Dad, definately a NWS unit. Has a 5.5 OHV honda on it, so i sent it down there for the stationary motor. But the old man being who he is has been using it to slash with.

Same as this one pictured but not self propelled and not mk12 Villiers powered and minus the mudguards.





The deck belt works in the same way except the Deutscher deck slides for engaement.
If i remember right the pulleys are in line on the pull side. I think thats how it works.

Thanks Bob, what sort of price would you be asking, minus any parts that you want. Pretty keen on the rover deck too.

Cheers.

Guys, let's leave the commercial discussions for PMs, please.

Duetschers or the Whirlwind Greg???

The whirlwind is in use at the moment. Bout the only thing of use on it would be the spindle. Its not a very wide cut, maybe 22 or 23 inches.

Not sure what im doing with the Deutschers. I will have to do something theres a few $$$ invested in em. Was going to make one up out of the two for Dad, but it will be to sell now. Ive got a Greenfields walk behind for Dad now.

I will get some pics and post them up here as its relavant to the topic.
I will have a think and as Grumpy suggested, send you a PM.

Ditto on the Rover deck.

Heres the pics of the Deutschers


The first one. I was thinking chinese but then i bought the Vanguard motor to fix to go on it. Havent got far. Could be a challenge as it was originally a G65 on it and they are a fairly upright motor.




This one is Dads.






Not that ive had either of these working but from all reports they are a dependable unit.

On the second one theres some bits of RHS that came with it that space up the motor, not shown in the picture, the belt to the deck spindle needs to be in alignment horizontally as well, and that also tensions the drive belt.

The lever on the LHS of the machine slides the deck back and forth, it has an over centre on it to 'lock' it into engagement. The rods that do this are threaded for adjustment.
I would assume that the process is to set the motor up so that the drive belt has the right tension and then adjust the deck to suit.

The pulley on the deck spindle is height adjustable.



I thought with the design of the Whirlwind and the Deutscher above it might work for you.
If you had a few of these to make it might be easier to go with scratch built rather than having to rely on recycling a ride on deck to build each one.

Ok, it's had a facelift....



Had a colour change, as I prefer the red and grey.

It's had a heart transplant as well, used the old engine elsewhere.

It's now an old alloy bore 8hp Briggs, (no idea of codes as the cowl was missing), one I got the remains of but it turned over. I had to fit the top cowl, air filter and carb off an 11hp, (one with adjustable mixture screws), and the recoil starter and starter cup off a 5hp, and the muffler is off a Suzuki 2 stroke.

It was only after I did the mods that I was able to start it, and I must say, it runs well. So I was pretty lucky.

Hi Ty

I am hoping you may be able to assist me. I have been trying to track down Greg, as I also have a Mobilco Ride-on, similar to the one he restored. I am considering a resto in the future and had hoped to be able to connect with him to share info etc.

Any assistance would be much appreciated.

Garry

Greetings Garry,

And welcome to the ODK Forums. If you've seen Greg's Mobilco ride-on resto thread, it's very good for detail pics and assembly how-to's.

Sadly, I have to inform you that Greg is no longer with us. AFAIK he was one of the victims in a horrible triple murder, that occurred in Wedderburn, Victoria in 2014.

I've no idea why his forum profile appears to show a recent login!

A Farcebook page he had is still in existence though; https://www.facebook.com/Hardbull-Mowers-Bendigo-201666369971329

Hope you are well.

Very belated thanks for this info - I did not see it at the time and stopped looking soon after.

Very sad situation, by the sounds of it.

I am connected to Cyber Jack now who is sharing his Mobilco wisdom with me. Baby steps ...

Garry