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by maxwestern - 25/04/24 10:58 AM
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Well Run through everything else first then.
Strong white/blue spark over a 3mm gap? Good Top & Bottom Compression? If it's reed-valve, how is the valve looking? How does the timing seem? Are you sure the Muffler has not had some insect build a nest anywhere in it?
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I feel that this does still seem carby related to me, However if you are uncomfortable getting to that, we can go through the process of ruling out all possible alternatives, as that way we can be sure about the carby eliment, and you can feel more confident you are not risking the carby unecissarily.
We can start with checking the ignition timing, While this engine wil have a transistorised coil, and there for the actual timing is controlled by a computer module, you can still have some issues that can cause the timing to be out, these are mostly regaurding flywheel keys, etc.
To make the machine not kick at all, it would need to be noticabley out, get a long wwoden stick, like the handle of a small artists paint brush, and insert it into the spark plus hole untill it touches the piston, hold it fairly central, so that it does not fall to the edge of the cylinder, this will let you see where the piston is in it's cycle.
Now, do a spark test, and try to work out if the piston is pretty much at the top of the cylinder when it sparks.
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Thanks for all your assistants with this [Censored] thing. I appreciated it,however I feel I've had enough of it.I certainly have sent far to much time working on it.It would be better and cheaper just to buy a new one.I mean I bought a wiper sniper and another blower for spare parts for it.Now how much is it worth?I have projects all over the place which I feel at this point are more important than this thing that refuses to go.I mean even if I got it going is it a good one? Is it worth it? I'm sorry I've just spent nearly 2 days on it.I just feel likes it an exercise in futility.I would prefer to spend my time on equipment that wants to live on.I am sorry but at this point I think I'd really like to see a sledge hammer taken to it,but I won't. I'm just going to put it in the shed and maybe wait until I feel that I need something that will frustrate me again.Sorry I just don't think its worth all this frustration.I mean these one the same model on eBay for $35. I don't think this one is worth it.Once again thanks to all I do appreciate the help.I just don't think it's worth the hassle.
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Would you like me to "Borrow" it for a week or two, and see if I cant give it back to you working?
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If I had a way to get it out here I would give it a new home, I might need a blower yet. I do see them very occasionaly out here but since the shop is gone from the tip here it is impossible to get anything.
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Joe, I am free the weekend of the 13th/14th, So I can come by and give you that mower.
If you like i can stop on the way and grab you a blower from the tip here, there's a few MTD's with Ryobi engines, as well as a couple of Ryobi's, and a few others by memory.
Heck I could stop at the tip on the way to yours, and call you to tell you whats there, then you could pick out anything you like!
Cheers Ty
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I'll pm you in a sec Ty. On that weekend I only have the saturday off mainly after full crank victas these days, I have given up picking up any "new" mowers unless they are a special model or free.....
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Well you can if you like,just don't pull your hair out like I did.It would be good to get it going. I do need one.I just don't have the time at the moment to look at it.With the inspection coming up and so many other jobs on the table.
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No Worries mate, I have a number of things here for you, so i will grab it when i drop these off, and let you know how i go with it.
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Do you have a day when you will call in?
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Not sure yet, probably next week.
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Ok cool.I'll put it back together then.Do you have the (I think) six pin (like a star) bits to undo the cover?If not I'll leave the back cover off.
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It's OK, I have those!
Have to keep alot of different security screw drivers about!
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Ok then I'll put it back together then.Thanks for doing this man.I do appreciate it.
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Not a worry, I will make sure to post the results up here too!
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Ok and I won't interfere in the fixing process as I'm completely out of ideas with it.[Censored] thing.
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Ok I bite the bullet and I tried the mixture screws on the carby.Did as was told screwed them in all the way and then screwed them out 1/4 turns at a time. Continued doing this until I could visible see that the screws were so far out I swear I seen a china man dangling from the ends of them.Way to far out.All with not one sliest kick.No signs of life at all.The only problem I have now.Is how the heck and I'm going to get it going now.I now have an unturned carby as well as what ever the other issue is.I really (as I said before) believe it's not a carby issue.Surely these carby's would work on a similar principle as a car engine.They use to work on the principle of all the way in and then 1 and a half turns out,would at least get it started then go from there.Could this work the same? I hope so as at least that would give me a starting point with the carby.Could the problem be that even-though it has spark could it just be a little to weak to cause the big bang?Then another bang and another and so and on and...,you know what I mean.I just can't understand it.I've never had an engine where everything appears to work but yet no go.[Censored] frustrating.Ok let me know what you think guys any help will do.Even the most silliest idea could lead to a solution.After all that's what this forum is good for people with the same interest throwing ideas around.Thanks all.
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Hvae you checked the flywheel key out yet? for an engine to show no signs of life at all with fuel and spark I would be paying attention to the timing.
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Ok then.Silly question.If the timing is out wouldn't it a least try and kick? I just thought I'd see some kind of life.
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I figure if its far enough out that its sparking at the bottom of the compression stroke, it will be too far away to make any sign of life. Could also be worth trying an ignition coil from a similar whipper snipper if you have one that fits as if the electronic ignition module might be muffed up, this is unlikely though.
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